Die Hard V - Not Looking Good... - Page 17

Alidar Jarok · January 15 2013, 03:30 PM

Die Hard, of course, has greater name recognition.

My personal view is that the standards for PG-13 have grown more lax over time, which allows for a Die Hard PG-13 movie without noticeable disruption. But, if they want to make it R-rated, it's not that big of a deal. The loss in revenue will probably not be overly dramatic for this movie.

Captaindemotion · January 15 2013, 03:36 PM

I think most DH fans are of a certain age, having seen it or the first few sequels in the cinema first time round. The name probably won't mean an awful lot to under-18s anyway.

Captain Craig · January 15 2013, 06:17 PM

^^^
Maybe. If you are 16/17yrs old the last DH was 5yrs ago AND PG-13. Making you 11/12yrs old so it's highly possible it's teen audience might be stronger than you'd think.

Which could turn out to seem an incredible sense of accidental foresight that the studio seeded a younger generation into the DH franchise to then boost this one right back to R, thus pleasing everyone and growing the fanbase.

Starkers wrote:

Captaindemotion wrote:

I'm too lazy to post a link but there are tv spots jumping up again and, best of all, it's been announced that this movie will be R-rated! Rejoice motherfuckers, rejoice!

I'm glad about this, but I can also think of a few films for which this has been (partially at least) the kiss of death (Dredd for one, but also Watchmen). Personally I'm happy about this though!!

My thoughts were that DREDD suffered from being released between Resident Evil Retribution and Looper which became a break out hit. That and not having a marque value name, despite great reviews played into it's downfall and not it's R rating.

On Thursday, the 17th, they are announcing the theaters that will have an all day DH marathon build up to the movies release.

Starkers · January 15 2013, 09:23 PM

Oh it's not the whole reason Dredd failed, just one part of it, but I think it did contribute.

JarodRussell · January 29 2013, 11:23 PM

This clips makes me feel a little better about Willis' acting. In that clip his more lively than in the entire Die Hard 4 film.

And that punch sounds like it's straight from the original Die Hard. Gotta love that.

Music sucks (I just hate Beltrami, incorporating the McClane theme here and there doesn't make up for the rest of absolutely bland and generic action scoring). The blue tint absolutely sucks, why can't they just go for realistic color grading?

Chemahkuu · January 29 2013, 11:26 PM

Looks great, can't wait for this movie

Lonemagpie · January 30 2013, 12:03 AM

Starkers wrote:

Oh it's not the whole reason Dredd failed, just one part of it, but I think it did contribute.

Having the exact same plot as The Raid didn't help either...

Starkers · January 30 2013, 11:56 AM

Which wasn't there fault given they went into production first. I never saw the raid but I did hear Dredd at least had characters you could root for whereas the Raid was just one long fight scene...

Besides cop(s) trapped in a building full of people trying to kill them isn't exactly original.

Lonemagpie · January 30 2013, 03:05 PM

Starkers wrote:

Which wasn't there fault given they went into production first. .

Yeah, just a shame

Starkers · January 30 2013, 03:40 PM

Not the first time though, these things happen. I remember reading an interview with Fincher when he was talking about Alien 3 and said that as they were filming the bit where they dump molten metal over the alien they heard about Terminator 2...

Dredd at least is doing well on DVD/BluRay/Netflix!

Captain Craig · January 30 2013, 11:08 PM

Chemahkuu wrote:

Looks great, can't wait for this movie

Same here.

I'm doing the marathon on 2/13!!

Aldo · February 3 2013, 02:38 AM

In addition to that clip that Jarod posted, there's two more clips out there, both featuring McClane and his son.

I've started off my countdown today with the first Die Hard. And you know, no matter how good and fun this new one may be, it will never match the first one (I'd argue the first three). Those movies will probably never be topped...they just don't make them like that anymore.

Captain Craig · February 4 2013, 02:49 AM

I don't think the series has a bad movie. All 4 are great.

I may like IJ4 but I can understand some folks gripes with it.
I don't hate Rocky 5, but I understand why some see it as weaker.
This saga doesn't have a Tokyo Drift as I see it.
There isn't a Rambo 3 for this series.

All 4 DH films to date are awesome cinema experiences and I look for the newest one to stay on track!!!

Aldo · February 4 2013, 07:02 AM

I love the first 3 Die Hard films, so I'll always watch four with an open mind. After all, it did take me a while to warm up to Lethal Weapon 4, but I do enjoy that movie now, even though it is the weakest of the four films.

As for some news on five, rumor has it that the runtime is around 90 minutes. This is a little troubling, as the last four films have all been about two hours. Makes you wonder if it was either a longer movie, or an R rated movie. Like Fox wouldn't let them have both. Now I know a shorter running time doesn't necessarily mean it will be bad, just that it might not be as big on story or character as the first three were.

Lonemagpie · February 13 2013, 08:29 PM

And after all defending of it, 97 minute runtime and all...

Ah, fuck. The director's so proud of making sure it's a proper R-rated movie this time, so naturally in the UK it gets cut down to be a 12A instead of a 15. I guess I'll be waiting for the inevitable "harder cut" DVD to see A Good Day To Die Hard. And they better fucking not pull that "12 DVD, uncut 15 Blu-Ray" shit, or I'm off to the torrent sites first chance I get. Jeez and they wonder why people download....

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January 15 2013, 03:30 PM	#241
Alidar Jarok Everything in moderation but moderation Location: Arlington, VA	Re: Die Hard V - Not Looking Good... Die Hard, of course, has greater name recognition. My personal view is that the standards for PG-13 have grown more lax over time, which allows for a Die Hard PG-13 movie without noticeable disruption. But, if they want to make it R-rated, it's not that big of a deal. The loss in revenue will probably not be overly dramatic for this movie. __________________ When on Romulus, Do as the Romulans

January 15 2013, 03:36 PM	#242
Captaindemotion Vice Admiral Location: Ireland	Re: Die Hard V - Not Looking Good... I think most DH fans are of a certain age, having seen it or the first few sequels in the cinema first time round. The name probably won't mean an awful lot to under-18s anyway. __________________ Hodor!!!!!!!

January 15 2013, 09:23 PM	#244
Starkers Admiral Location: Behind enemy lines...	Re: Die Hard V - Not Looking Good... Oh it's not the whole reason Dredd failed, just one part of it, but I think it did contribute. __________________ Werewolves on the Moon Now with Star Trek Into Darkness review The Devils of Amber Street

January 29 2013, 11:23 PM	#245
JarodRussell Vice Admiral	Re: Die Hard V - Not Looking Good... This clips makes me feel a little better about Willis' acting. In that clip his more lively than in the entire Die Hard 4 film. And that punch sounds like it's straight from the original Die Hard. Gotta love that. Music sucks (I just hate Beltrami, incorporating the McClane theme here and there doesn't make up for the rest of absolutely bland and generic action scoring). The blue tint absolutely sucks, why can't they just go for realistic color grading? __________________ lol l /\

January 29 2013, 11:26 PM	#246
Chemahkuu Vice Admiral Location: United Kingdom	Re: Die Hard V - Not Looking Good... Looks great, can't wait for this movie

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January 30 2013, 11:56 AM	#248
Starkers Admiral Location: Behind enemy lines...	Re: Die Hard V - Not Looking Good... Which wasn't there fault given they went into production first. I never saw the raid but I did hear Dredd at least had characters you could root for whereas the Raid was just one long fight scene... Besides cop(s) trapped in a building full of people trying to kill them isn't exactly original. __________________ Werewolves on the Moon Now with Star Trek Into Darkness review The Devils of Amber Street

January 30 2013, 03:40 PM	#250
Starkers Admiral Location: Behind enemy lines...	Re: Die Hard V - Not Looking Good... Not the first time though, these things happen. I remember reading an interview with Fincher when he was talking about Alien 3 and said that as they were filming the bit where they dump molten metal over the alien they heard about Terminator 2... Dredd at least is doing well on DVD/BluRay/Netflix! __________________ Werewolves on the Moon Now with Star Trek Into Darkness review The Devils of Amber Street

February 3 2013, 02:38 AM	#252
Aldo Admiral Location: Washington	Re: Die Hard V - Not Looking Good... In addition to that clip that Jarod posted, there's two more clips out there, both featuring McClane and his son. I've started off my countdown today with the first Die Hard. And you know, no matter how good and fun this new one may be, it will never match the first one (I'd argue the first three). Those movies will probably never be topped...they just don't make them like that anymore. __________________ I'm only responsible for what I say, not for what you understand.

February 4 2013, 02:49 AM	#253
Captain Craig Vice Admiral Location: Nashville,TN	Re: Die Hard V - Not Looking Good... I don't think the series has a bad movie. All 4 are great. I may like IJ4 but I can understand some folks gripes with it. I don't hate Rocky 5, but I understand why some see it as weaker. This saga doesn't have a Tokyo Drift as I see it. There isn't a Rambo 3 for this series. All 4 DH films to date are awesome cinema experiences and I look for the newest one to stay on track!!! __________________ "Picard never hit me." Q-Less(DS9) "Freedom is the Right of All Sentient Beings" Optimus Prime Twitter:http://twitter.com/#!/CaptainCraig1

February 4 2013, 07:02 AM	#254
Aldo Admiral Location: Washington	Re: Die Hard V - Not Looking Good... I love the first 3 Die Hard films, so I'll always watch four with an open mind. After all, it did take me a while to warm up to Lethal Weapon 4, but I do enjoy that movie now, even though it is the weakest of the four films. As for some news on five, rumor has it that the runtime is around 90 minutes. This is a little troubling, as the last four films have all been about two hours. Makes you wonder if it was either a longer movie, or an R rated movie. Like Fox wouldn't let them have both. Now I know a shorter running time doesn't necessarily mean it will be bad, just that it might not be as big on story or character as the first three were. __________________ I'm only responsible for what I say, not for what you understand.

February 13 2013, 08:29 PM	#255
Lonemagpie Writer Location: Yorkshire	Re: Die Hard V - Not Looking Good... And after all defending of it, 97 minute runtime and all... Ah, fuck. The director's so proud of making sure it's a proper R-rated movie this time, so naturally in the UK it gets cut down to be a 12A instead of a 15. I guess I'll be waiting for the inevitable "harder cut" DVD to see A Good Day To Die Hard. And they better fucking not pull that "12 DVD, uncut 15 Blu-Ray" shit, or I'm off to the torrent sites first chance I get. Jeez and they wonder why people download.... http://www.melonfarmers.co.uk/bbfc_l..._the_BBFC_4814 __________________ "I got two modes with people- Bite, and Avoid" Reading: Mystery Man (Colin Bateman) Blog- http://lonemagpie.livejournal.com