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Old October 8 2011, 01:30 PM   #1321
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How... how do they know what percentage another book sold of Batman if they don't know how much Batman sold, and how much the other book sold? X/Y = 20%? This is voodoo economics.
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Old October 8 2011, 01:34 PM   #1322
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How... how do they know what percentage another book sold of Batman if they don't know how much Batman sold, and how much the other book sold? X/Y = 20%? This is voodoo economics.
The people who did the charts do - for whatever reason, they don't release the figure straight away - no idea why - but they release this chart so people can see how titles are doing relative to each other.
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Old October 8 2011, 02:08 PM   #1323
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Batman is the base at 100, OMAC sold just under a fifth of the base. Once we know what Batman actually sold (nobody has worked it out yet), we will know what the other comics sold.

So if Batman sold 200,000 issues and a comic is 50 of base, it sold 100,000 issues.
However, Diamond took out about ten percent of the titles marked with an asterix because they were returnable.

OMAC was still the lowest, but if the amount taken out because of returnability is factored back in, it would have a score of 19.8.
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Old October 8 2011, 04:53 PM   #1324
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I'm not keen on Perry's redesign. To me, he has a strong resemblance to how Marvel generally draws Nick Fury.



No, the other one.



Yeah, that one.

It's not a deal-breaker, of course. It is just that when I first saw NuPerry, I thought "Nick Fury got his eye back and now runs the Daily Planet. Wow, DC really is trying out new things!"
Nah, they're just returning him to his original look:

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Old October 8 2011, 04:57 PM   #1325
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Batman is the base at 100, OMAC sold just under a fifth of the base. Once we know what Batman actually sold (nobody has worked it out yet), we will know what the other comics sold.
I don't think you need to know what Batman sold. I think all you have to do is use a title whose sales have stayed even throughout the period or that has moved by predictable increments. Then you can use that to figure out how much Batman or the other titles have sold.
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Old October 8 2011, 05:19 PM   #1326
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All I know is I enjoyed O.M.A.C. more than half the books above it on that list.
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Old October 8 2011, 05:48 PM   #1327
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Is the 80s when they made Brainiac look like a robot? Because they turned him into one in the mid 60s - they claimed at the time that they'd known in-house that he was a machine ever since his second or third appearance.

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Do I need to read the rest of Dc universe if I just want to read Ivampire.
Pretty much you need to read about fifty of the comics, yeah, if you want the vampire story continuity and mythology to make sense.
And THAT, in a nutshell, is why this latest reboot will eventually fail too.

DC and Marvel have gotten to the point where nearly every book is part of a giant companywide team up story ("final blackest infinite civil crisis war on spider island 52 itself" or something) that never ends. That might appeal to the ever dwindling collectors (or might not) but it isn't new reader friendly and it turns off anyone who might have an interest in one or two titles but not the whole line.

I can't think of a single other entertainment company that does this to this consistency. Fox doesn't make you watch "Family Guy," "house" and "the Simpsons" to understand "Glee." Warner Brothers pictures doesn't require a knowledge of the "Harry Potter" franchise to enjoy "the Dark Knight." CBS records isn't expecting fans of Bruce Springsteen to download Beynoce's latest in order to get a complete copy of "the Promise."

But with comics we are expected to buy every product the company makes in order to get a complete story/product.

Bah.
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Old October 8 2011, 05:54 PM   #1328
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He was kidding...
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Old October 8 2011, 06:12 PM   #1329
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I bet it comes true. Didildo can't help himself.
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Old October 8 2011, 06:20 PM   #1330
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He was kidding...
I thought that was pretty hard to miss. I guess one should never assume...

Given the Diamond figures, it looks like the relaunch is quite a success. Even if this is a surge that lasts a month or two, they were so far down before that it's a month or two better than they've had in years.
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Old October 8 2011, 07:06 PM   #1331
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The revised numbers are a lot better.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/10/...eptember-2011/
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Old October 8 2011, 07:08 PM   #1332
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Those aren't revised numbers - it's just guesswork by Johnson on possible numbers, the impact of UK sales (which are never recorded in those figures) etc - he's just pulling numbers out of thin air.
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Old October 9 2011, 12:10 AM   #1333
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I read my first DC issue of the week last night, Animal Man #2.
As I noted earlier he's not a character I've followed and only aware of in vague terms.
Ergo, I'm just on the ride so far. Issue #2 was interesting but was more Animal girl than really about Buddy. Have Buddy's kids, or in this case, little girl been shown like this before? I'm seeing parallels of a sort in how the Swamp Thing family dynamic has at times been shown over the years. Curious to see what 'The Red' tree has in store next month.
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Old October 9 2011, 12:42 AM   #1334
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Afaik, they haven't, but the only Animal Man run I'm initimately familiar with is Morrison's.
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Old October 9 2011, 01:08 AM   #1335
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Buddy's kids definitely didn't have any powers in Countdown to Adventure, which is the most recent story I've read with them in.
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