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Old September 29 2011, 09:22 PM   #1051
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Ok, I get that they're trying to downplay Clark's studliness... but that new haircut is just ridiculous.
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Old September 29 2011, 11:00 PM   #1052
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I like it. It and the glasses suit this version of the character; he's really an unmade bed, isn't he?

The editors apparently liked the Morales take on the character.

I hope we never see him in a properly knotted tie or a well-fitting jacket again.
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Old September 29 2011, 11:03 PM   #1053
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I don't mind the haircut. It kind of is an older version of his hair in "Action Comics".
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Old September 29 2011, 11:04 PM   #1054
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Yep. And Action's going back for a second printing. Here's the current list.
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Old September 29 2011, 11:07 PM   #1055
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It's Bart. Remember they've said they have no plans for Wally. We discussed this in the build up thread.
Right, forgot that.

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I want to think someone, maybe even DiDio, said that Wally was retired, with his wife and kids.
That doesn't kinda jibe with The Flash, where it feels like Barry is at the beginning of his career. He isn't even dating Iris--which of course, might never come to pass.
But he still has a grandson? How does Bart fit into this?
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Old September 29 2011, 11:12 PM   #1056
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I don't mind the haircut. It kind of is an older version of his hair in "Action Comics".
Eh, I don't much like the "Hairy Potter look" with the tussled hair and the large circular glasses.
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Old September 29 2011, 11:16 PM   #1057
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I like the coloring better in the newer ones.

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But he still has a grandson? How does Bart fit into this?
TIME Pharoah!

If anyone gets that reference, I'll eat my hat...
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Old September 29 2011, 11:16 PM   #1058
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It's Bart. Remember they've said they have no plans for Wally. We discussed this in the build up thread.
Right, forgot that.

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I want to think someone, maybe even DiDio, said that Wally was retired, with his wife and kids.
That doesn't kinda jibe with The Flash, where it feels like Barry is at the beginning of his career. He isn't even dating Iris--which of course, might never come to pass.
But he still has a grandson? How does Bart fit into this?
We don't know that he is Barry's Grandson. We don't really know anything yet.
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Old September 29 2011, 11:21 PM   #1059
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I like the coloring better in the newer ones.
It's a little bit more subtle, isn't it? Someone at Bleeding Cool interpreted the change in his pants at the elevator as moving from blue jeans to some other kind of trousers, but that's impossible to tell - the colorist just generally warmed up the palette in those images, and there was never any way to tell what kind of pants he had on.

I'm curious about the reason for redrawing Perry in the close-up when he's discussing Kent's scoop - somebody just didn't like the likeness?

They dropped a "Hell" out of someone's speech - guess Young Clark's "G-D" in Action was too much.
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Old September 29 2011, 11:40 PM   #1060
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It's Bart. Remember they've said they have no plans for Wally. We discussed this in the build up thread.
Right, forgot that.

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I want to think someone, maybe even DiDio, said that Wally was retired, with his wife and kids.
That doesn't kinda jibe with The Flash, where it feels like Barry is at the beginning of his career. He isn't even dating Iris--which of course, might never come to pass.
But he still has a grandson? How does Bart fit into this?
As others have said, we don't know if he still IS his grandson. BUT, he could be. Bart is in the 21st century because of Time Travel. (Well in the old continuity anyway)

The Barry we see right now isn't a grandfather... YET. But at some point he does become one, and Bart is his grandson. Who travels back to before his Grandfather was even a father.
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Old September 29 2011, 11:43 PM   #1061
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Yeah DiDio confirmed that this is still Bart Allen I think over SDCC. With the same relationship to Barry that he had before. We just don't know how this transpired this time. They're new timeline is really screwed up in my opinion...and no I haven't spent too much time or really any time trying to reconcile it or figure it out. Just my initial observation is that it is one of the most illogical comic book time line rationalizations ever.
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Old September 29 2011, 11:50 PM   #1062
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Not sure we know enough about the "timeline" to know how screwed up it is. All we do know is somethings are not like before.
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Old September 30 2011, 12:45 AM   #1063
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same for Hawkman, whose art didn't sell me. New Guardians as well is a book if I find it in surplus later I'll check out.
Don't bother with New Guardians, flipped it through at the store, definitely not worth the money.

On the other hand, for Hawkman the art is gorgeous. I think Daniel might actually have written a book I'd want to read. But then its main selling point is the art and the coloring.
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Old September 30 2011, 12:45 AM   #1064
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Read "The Flash" it was okay, though I'm not much into The Flash or have good handle on his powers or how simply being fast would be all that greatly useful in fighting crime/super villains. But it was a decent little book.
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Old September 30 2011, 01:03 AM   #1065
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Well, I can imagine the freaking out if Grant Morrison bolted because he didn't like Didio's management. Since there are apparently rumors of much dissatisfaction and a "high profile defection" to Marvel in the works.
So long as Mark Millar is still doing work for Marvel, even if it's just creator-owned stuff for Icon, I don't see Morrison going over to Marvel.
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