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Old May 1 2014, 01:17 AM   #8116
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Well, it's official. Stephanie Brown didn't exist in the Bat continuity before this. She was never the Spoiler or Robin or Batgirl. But she was in Morrison's Batman Incorporated. My head hurts.

This invalidates a great swath of the Robin-Tim series from the 1990s/2000s. I guess this means War Games didn't happen either...
Why should your head hurt? It's not that difficult to understand that not everything happened the same way as before or even at the start of the New 52. Why should today's books be beholding to the continuity from two decades ago?
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Old May 1 2014, 01:20 AM   #8117
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It's also not surprising.
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Old May 1 2014, 01:51 AM   #8118
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Didn't she appear in the post-Flashpoint New 52 Batman Incorporated issues? We can't pretend that Bat Inc didn't happen because Damien and Talia are dead, Ra'sh has an army of Man-Bat ninjas, Spyral exists, and there's an international army of Batmen...
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Old May 1 2014, 01:57 AM   #8119
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I've been wondering why Forever Evil #7 has been continually pushed back (it's been pushed back twice now) it's so ridiculous that I believe Forever Evil Aftermath: Bane Vs Batman is coming out before it now.
It's amazing that one could replace "Forever Evil" with nearly every DC comic Event mini-series and your post above would still make sense. Infinite Crisis, Final Crisis, etc. Hell, you could even do it with Seven Soldiers of Victory.
No you can't. Blackest Night? Flashpoint?
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Old May 1 2014, 02:00 AM   #8120
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Didn't she appear in the post-Flashpoint New 52 Batman Incorporated issues? We can't pretend that Bat Inc didn't happen because Damien and Talia are dead, Ra'sh has an army of Man-Bat ninjas, Spyral exists, and there's an international army of Batmen...
The story doesn't fall apart because Steph isn't in it. It's not an all or nothing game.
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Old May 1 2014, 02:07 AM   #8121
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I'm guessing that DiDio and company are gonna ignore most everything Morrison from now on...which is why this isn't surprising.
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Old May 1 2014, 02:13 AM   #8122
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I'm guessing that DiDio and company are gonna ignore most everything Morrison from now on...which is why this isn't surprising.
Well Damien will still be around.
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Old May 1 2014, 02:19 AM   #8123
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I did say "most everything Morrison". Damian is an exception. He seems to be the one thing that DiDio accepted from Morrison's pitch that he actually likes...and then of course there's the Tomasai factor involved. Everything else though is out. Including I assume the"missing year" and Dick being Batman both of which have never been explained or mentioned I think in the 52'Verse.
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Old May 1 2014, 03:03 PM   #8124
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Well, it's official. Stephanie Brown didn't exist in the Bat continuity before this. She was never the Spoiler or Robin or Batgirl. But she was in Morrison's Batman Incorporated. My head hurts.

This invalidates a great swath of the Robin-Tim series from the 1990s/2000s. I guess this means War Games didn't happen either...
Heck, Teen Titans has invalidated large swathes of the 90s Robin series, what with Tim never having been Robin and his parents being alive and in the witness protection program.

I know that DC said that Batman and Green Lantern continuity weren't being rebooted in the New 52, but it's been increasingly apparent the last two years that Batman continuity in the New 52 bears only a passing resemblance to what came before.

That's why Comics Alliance didn't annotate the final run of Batman Inc; the writer of the annotation series stated that he couldn't be sure what references were valid any longer.
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Old May 1 2014, 08:41 PM   #8125
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Surely Zero Year pretty definitively shows that the old Batman continuity is gone, even if they overlapped slightly for a bit.
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Old May 2 2014, 03:06 AM   #8126
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I've been wondering why Forever Evil #7 has been continually pushed back (it's been pushed back twice now) it's so ridiculous that I believe Forever Evil Aftermath: Bane Vs Batman is coming out before it now.
It's amazing that one could replace "Forever Evil" with nearly every DC comic Event mini-series and your post above would still make sense. Infinite Crisis, Final Crisis, etc. Hell, you could even do it with Seven Soldiers of Victory.
No you can't. Blackest Night? Flashpoint?
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Today we're here with an exclusive look at DC's Blackest Night plans. Earlier this month DC announced that Blackest Night #7, which should have shipped in January, would be delayed until February - and the final issue of the event would arrive in March. In its place, the publisher plans to release eight "revived" titles: Atom & Hawkman, Catwoman, Phantom Stranger, Power of Shazam, Question, Starman, Weird Western Tales and Suicide Squad. There will also be one tie-in title, Secret Six, which continues the story from Suicide Squad.
Flashpoint wasn't delayed, obviously, since everything hinged on Flashpoint #5 and Justice Leauge #1 being in stores August 31, 2011, hence my comment saying, "almost." I also should have added, "every event of the past 10 or so years."
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Old May 2 2014, 04:36 AM   #8127
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This delays is pretty huge, though. I remember Infinite Crisis being slightly delayed, but nothing like this.
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Old May 7 2014, 06:08 PM   #8128
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I have to say that I was fairly skeptical about a weekly Batman series at first but then I read the preview in Batman and decided to give it a try. 5 issues in and I am really enjoying Batman Eternal. The art this week was fantastic. I'm looking forward to seeing where this is going.

There was also a big double page ad for Superman #32 in the middle of the issue. I am pretty stoked to see what Geoff Johns and John Romita Jr. do with Supes.
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Old May 7 2014, 07:48 PM   #8129
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i thought i had somehow missed Forever Evil #7. seems crazy that the next event is getting started while the previous event has yet to finish up.
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Old May 7 2014, 07:51 PM   #8130
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Does anyone know when it's coming out?
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