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Old March 9 2014, 02:22 AM   #7951
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Mazahs, so Alexander Luthor is what also a student of Zatanna?
Somehow saying Shazam's name backward also grants you power? Is it different somehow? This is F'ed up.
Who said the wizard's name was "Shazam" on Earth 3? The name is formed from the first letters in names of various Gods and heroes. Any arrangement is possible. HAZMAS! ZHAAMS! Being a mirror Universe. why not MAZAHS?
Was the wizards name Shazam before he magicked the Shazam lightning with godly powers? Or did he have to lock down specific gods to match his name as an acronym.

Chicken or egg.

I do remember some situation precrisis where they did have to petition a different set of gods to make up a Sazam spell.

So it does happen.

What were the gods who made up black adam's girlfriend Isis's power set?
In the old continuity Shazam was a shepherd named Jebediah of Canaan. He was given his powers by some gods called Marsosh, Arel, Ribalvei, Voldar, Elbiam and Lumiun. His magic word was Vlarem and used the name "The Champion".(So order doesn't seem to matter) When he gave Teth Adam the power it was from the Egyptian Gods: Shu, Heru, Amon, Zehuti, Aton and Mehen. From what I can tell, Isis doesn't get her powers from a magic word
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Old March 9 2014, 03:08 AM   #7952
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Wiki tells me that the Old 52 Isis was a homage to the 70s TV show which DC kinda still owns the rights to, and that she got her powers from a magic amulet that Billy Batson blessed after he got the old Wizards job.. Although then she gave her powers, part of her powers to her crippled brother who was eventually eaten by a anthropmoropisized crocodile who they may have given powers to...

The weekly comic 52/count down to crisis was an awful/expensive mess that I invested far too much money into.
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Old March 9 2014, 04:21 AM   #7953
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I actually liked the 52 weekly series. For a story that couldn't star any primary character it was surprisingly important and entertaining.
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Old March 9 2014, 04:33 AM   #7954
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I liked it when Animal Man and Starfire were in space doing it even though he was married.

But they never focussed on that enough.
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Old March 9 2014, 11:24 AM   #7955
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I liked it when Animal Man and Starfire were in space doing it even though he was married.

But they never focussed on that enough.
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Old March 9 2014, 02:26 PM   #7956
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Wiki tells me that the Old 52 Isis was a homage to the 70s TV show which DC kinda still owns the rights to, and that she got her powers from a magic amulet that Billy Batson blessed after he got the old Wizards job.. Although then she gave her powers, part of her powers to her crippled brother who was eventually eaten by a anthropmoropisized crocodile who they may have given powers to...
She did get her powers from an amulet in 52. Unlike the Marvel family, she's not powered by gods, just nature.

"I feel her power inside me, Adam. Nature is calling me. Asking me what it can do to help my crusade."

First:

Second: She was shown to have powers over nature and when three of the Four Horsemen devestated Khandaq, she felt weakened.

The weekly comic 52/count down to crisis was an awful/expensive mess that I invested far too much money into.
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I actually liked the 52 weekly series. For a story that couldn't star any primary character it was surprisingly important and entertaining.
I recently re-read 52 and still enjoyed it. In fact, it was a good read without having a week to wait in between each issue. I think they did a great job on it.

Now Countdown/Countdown to Final Crisis was terrible. I bailed on it after a few issues and was happy to learn, upon reading Final Crisis, that even Morrison largely ignored it.

And now I realize the can of worms I've opened by mentioning Final Crisis!
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Old March 9 2014, 02:34 PM   #7957
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Yeah, Countdown was pretty much crap, and it had zero to do with Final Crisis because Morrison had nothing to do with it and completely ignored it

Trinity, the third weekly series, wasn't good either. It started out alright but then about half of the run time became yet another silly alternate reality. Sigh.

I'm really hoping the forthcoming Batman Eternal weekly series is good. It should be because it's involving the major writers the way that 52 did.
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Old March 9 2014, 04:26 PM   #7958
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Yeah, Countdown was pretty much crap, and it had zero to do with Final Crisis because Morrison had nothing to do with it and completely ignored it

Trinity, the third weekly series, wasn't good either. It started out alright but then about half of the run time became yet another silly alternate reality. Sigh.

I'm really hoping the forthcoming Batman Eternal weekly series is good. It should be because it's involving the major writers the way that 52 did.
It seems that DC has abandoned the 52 series a month concept; do these new weekly series count for 4 series a month?
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Old March 9 2014, 05:00 PM   #7959
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They have never abandoned it or Didio never will (he has an hangup for reworking his same old ideas thinking the audience won't notice). There was also Justice League Generation Lost and Brightest Day, which pretty much told the story following the resurrections in Blackest Night.

The problem with weeklies is that you need exceptional talent to pull them off. 52 had four of the best writers DC could get their hands on, one of the the best editors at the Big 2 and Keith Giffen on layouts. Countdown and Trinity had very weak writers and some of the worst editors at DC. If anything 52 was lightning in the bottle.

At least the quality of these new series will show us who amongst editorial is competent and who is incompetent.
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Old March 9 2014, 05:30 PM   #7960
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I forgot about Brightest Day / Generation Lost. I enjoyed that one. It had good writers and artists on it.
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Old March 11 2014, 06:55 PM   #7961
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http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/03/...orever-people/

Giffen teaming up with Didio again on Infinity Man and the Forever People.

Which also increases the likelihood of a bunch of other titles including Young Justice (a TT relaunch with fan favorite Lobdell?), Superman and Argus (with Sterling Gates probably!), Nightwing and Bluebird and Booster Gold (Charles Soule?).
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Old March 12 2014, 12:55 AM   #7962
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I don't know if I particularly care about the Forever People... of all those listed the only one that might be worth it is Booster Gold...
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Old March 12 2014, 01:03 AM   #7963
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I just want Sue Dibney back in the land of the living.
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Old March 12 2014, 02:09 AM   #7964
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Oh yeah, I forgot about all about Ralph Dibney! We never got to see them as ghost detectives after the 52 weekly series!!!
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Oh, that's right, Sue had a husband.

Some sort of Super hero I think?
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