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Old December 21 2013, 04:30 AM   #7696
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Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)

From the teaser images am I the only one who gets the feeling that New 52 Earth 5 years later is going to be one of the horrific nightmare futures, because it looks like some kind of robot monster thing hacked up a decent amount of the heroes and turned them into its cyborg minions.
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Old December 21 2013, 06:03 AM   #7697
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From the teaser images am I the only one who gets the feeling that New 52 Earth 5 years later is going to be one of the horrific nightmare futures, because it looks like some kind of robot monster thing hacked up a decent amount of the heroes and turned them into its cyborg minions.
Might have something to do with Brother Eye.
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Old December 21 2013, 12:24 PM   #7698
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Looks like it will be a rehash of a2001 or various other alternative futures that never happen - still might make a good story...
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Old December 21 2013, 04:04 PM   #7699
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Jurgens isn't awful, but he didn't have the balls to waste the Justice league International brand like he did. Cancelled after 11 issues.

He all know when Giffen and DeMattias stopped in the 90s and he started, but I'm guessing that Dan doesn't, not that that's any fault on his part for coming in second place.
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Yeah, I used to like Jurgens but his stuff just isn't doing it for me anymore.
I think he started out okay when he took over for Giffen and DeMatties. I really liked his Starbreaker story, where the League went against him, Guy quit, and it took the team of Blue and Gold to save the day.

He also did a good job with the post-Death of Superman issues, with his story called "Destiny's Hand."

At least I thought so at the time, before I learned he ripped off Gruenwald's Squadron Supreme in a story line where our world was replaced by one in which the Justice League went fascist. Though, it was awesome to see Hawkman with Sinestro's ring.
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Old December 21 2013, 05:45 PM   #7700
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He was good up into his run of Thor at Marvel. The Reigning was likely where he lost it. Everything he has done afterwards just hasn't been very good at all.
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Old December 22 2013, 06:04 AM   #7701
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I think he wore out his welcome on the Superman titles, first. He was the last of the crew from Death of Superman left and a big part of Superman Blue, for example.

I used to love his art, but then, like his writing I started liking it less. Especially when many of his characters could be interchangeable and he seems capable of only doing a few poses. Again, like his writing, his art became stale in the late 90's.
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Old December 22 2013, 02:57 PM   #7702
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I thought his art looked good on the Booster Gold 2000s series.
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Old December 22 2013, 07:09 PM   #7703
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I call that era the "Noughties".
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Old December 24 2013, 10:15 PM   #7704
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Forever Evil #4. I feel like nothing happened in this issue. We're 4/7 of the way through the series and the story hasn't really progressed at all. We're still setting up teams. We still don't know who the Hooded Prisoner is or who the alien is what wiped out Earth-3. Nothing is advancing.

Justice League #26. The quickie origins of these characters weren't very interesting.
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Old December 29 2013, 09:55 AM   #7705
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Oh damn. Just realized this week's Flash is written by Christos Gage. Gotta make sure I pick that up because he is amazing.
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Old January 2 2014, 04:17 AM   #7706
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Finally read Forever Evil #4 and have to disagree with Mr. Light. . While this was mostly set up for the final three issues, Johns chooses to focus on characters in this issue. Batman/Selina as he reveals the Cave to her for the first time. Superwoman/Ultraman as Evil Lois continues her manipulation of Ultraman, feeding his paranoia. Lex with his team. Power Ring and Deathstroke as well. Batman's response to Power Ring was epic, only to be followed up by the reveal of Sinestro on the final page as things heat up. The art has been beautiful as well. Compared to some of the other "event" books this year this has been completely satisfying thus far.

Also caught up on Justice League, and loving the Crime Syndicate backstories.

Was that also the first appearance of 52'Verse Eel O'Brien? I'm wondering if Plastic Man might not be the next character Johns will be writing an ongoing solo title for?
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Old January 2 2014, 07:54 AM   #7707
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Bruce's Justice league contingencies were naff.

Black Hands Tech drains Green Lantern Rings.

Superman is still frakked by magic?

Wonder Woman... Superglue. Watch her ripping off chunks of flesh and hair tot he bone as tries to stay four limbed. Paste Pot Pete should have done much better as a Super Villan.

Flash would be screwed over by Count Vertigo's tech or a black light generator.

Cyborg can just be virused. Has Bruce got anything to do with OMAC in The New 52?

Aquaman can be deydrated by almost anything hotter than a bugzapper.
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Old January 2 2014, 06:37 PM   #7708
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Your ideas are worse.
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Old January 2 2014, 07:46 PM   #7709
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Worse than a yellow ring with 30 seconds of Charge?
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Old January 7 2014, 12:15 AM   #7710
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So...having jumped into comics for the first time (after watching just about all of the DCAU and wanting more). I've got a couple of questions for the pros.

Does Action Comics ever get any better? I mean, everyone says how brilliant it is (at least the first run with Morrison), but I don't see it. I've gone through the first 2 TPB, which covers 2 arcs and I'm feeling flat. They build up Glenmorgan, calling him Mr. Metropolis even, and 2 issues later he's basically contracts Space Madness and goes away. Lame. Then they kill Clark Kent. Not original, but I'm intrigued. Then they kill his firefighting second identity. Haha Awesome. Hope they do it next week this could get hilarious...wait...no...magic landlady from the 5th dimension hand waves it all away. At this point, if I'm buying a Superman comic, I'm getting more out of "Superman" than his supposedly flagship title. Do I stick with that or go back to Action?

Every issue of Wonder Woman is awesome. That is not a question.

I hear good things about "Batman", but I have no interest in learning about things pre-reboot, and the Bat-titles were only sorta-rebooted. Do they make a lot of references to past stories or can I jump in and pretty much know everything?

Can someone recommend another title or two? I have greater interest in the main DC characters as opposed to the more obscure ones, but I'm open if they're REALLY compelling.
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