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Old November 21 2013, 12:31 AM   #7591
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Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)

New Guardians this month was really good! They've introduced a fascinating sci-fi concept here. Sort of like "Turn Left" on a massive scale. I'm excited to see where this story goes.
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Old November 21 2013, 01:25 AM   #7592
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Given it's Dini...what are the chances that it could be a Zee project?

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/11/...c-for-vertigo/
The Zeta Project? Cool.

Just kidding. My guess is Poison Ivy.

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So is Zero Year retconing Year One?
Yes.
They said it wasn't going to but it clearly is.
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Old November 21 2013, 10:06 AM   #7593
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Yeah Snyder originally stated that Zero Year wouldn't retcon it...but now as it's gone deeper and longer, it clearly is. I have no problem with the changes that have been made either.
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Old November 21 2013, 01:37 PM   #7594
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Zero Year isn't doing anything with the Falcones, is it? Does this invalidate Long Halloween and its sequel as well?
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Old November 21 2013, 01:40 PM   #7595
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The Falcones have been mentioned early on the arc I believe...and remember that "The Long Halloween" and "Dark Victory" were basically meant to be "year two" type stories.
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Old November 22 2013, 03:55 AM   #7596
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All this retconning of the retcon so early...kinda only firms up what a cluster the nu52 really is. Few bright spots but as a whole I'm disappointed.
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Old November 22 2013, 02:31 PM   #7597
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Well I had been away from comics for about 15 years and only decided to start picking up comics again when DC relaunched. Having missed 15 years of continuity it has worked pretty well for me so far. I did find Green Lantern a little odd to pick up because it was pretty clear I was jumping in in the middle of a story but other than that I have liked it so far.
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Old November 22 2013, 04:36 PM   #7598
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All this retconning of the retcon so early...kinda only firms up what a cluster the nu52 really is. Few bright spots but as a whole I'm disappointed.
Were the specific events of Year One mentioned post reboot? I'm not tied to any specific version of an origin. All that matters is if the broad strokes are there.
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Old November 22 2013, 04:43 PM   #7599
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Yeah Snyder originally stated that Zero Year wouldn't retcon it...but now as it's gone deeper and longer, it clearly is. I have no problem with the changes that have been made either.
It does lend some credence to the story that Snyer was specifically allowed to write Year Zero to supersede Year One due to behind the scenes events over DotF.
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Old November 22 2013, 06:43 PM   #7600
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There's been retconning since the very start of the relaunch...not just Zero Year which is establishing the beginning of the 52'Verse continuity and which I don't consider the same thing.
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Old November 22 2013, 08:23 PM   #7601
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There's been retconning since the very start of the relaunch...not just Zero Year which is establishing the beginning of the 52'Verse continuity and which I don't consider the same thing.
Which is fine by me. I think you have to make adjustments as things move along. Drop a concept if something better comes up. There's no way you can think of everything at launch.
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Old November 22 2013, 10:55 PM   #7602
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There's been retconning since the very start of the relaunch...not just Zero Year which is establishing the beginning of the 52'Verse continuity and which I don't consider the same thing.
Which is fine by me. I think you have to make adjustments as things move along. Drop a concept if something better comes up. There's no way you can think of everything at launch.
Are people saying that Year Zero contradicts something that has already been established in story in the new 52, or just events from before the reboot?
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Old November 22 2013, 11:00 PM   #7603
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There's been retconning since the very start of the relaunch...not just Zero Year which is establishing the beginning of the 52'Verse continuity and which I don't consider the same thing.
Which is fine by me. I think you have to make adjustments as things move along. Drop a concept if something better comes up. There's no way you can think of everything at launch.
Are people saying that Year Zero contradicts something that has already been established in story in the new 52, or just events from before the reboot?
That's what I'd like to know. I have no recollection of them doing so, but I haven't committed every issue to memory.
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Old November 23 2013, 03:49 AM   #7604
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All this retconning of the retcon so early...kinda only firms up what a cluster the nu52 really is. Few bright spots but as a whole I'm disappointed.
Were the specific events of Year One mentioned post reboot? I'm not tied to any specific version of an origin. All that matters is if the broad strokes are there.
I stay up to 6months behind on the "franchise" characters like Batman who don't need my monthly dollar for support. Just all the continued talk about retconning material on a line that was meant to feel like a starting point by others here and about the net seems to reinforce that they just can't stop tinkering with it.
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Old November 23 2013, 04:01 AM   #7605
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All this retconning of the retcon so early...kinda only firms up what a cluster the nu52 really is. Few bright spots but as a whole I'm disappointed.
Were the specific events of Year One mentioned post reboot? I'm not tied to any specific version of an origin. All that matters is if the broad strokes are there.
I stay up to 6months behind on the "franchise" characters like Batman who don't need my monthly dollar for support. Just all the continued talk about retconning material on a line that was meant to feel like a starting point by others here and about the net seems to reinforce that they just can't stop tinkering with it.
Like I said earlier, tinkering comes with the territory. You can't believe everything you read on the net.
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