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Old October 19 2013, 03:27 AM   #7441
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So you think it's kinda like how the Japanese Declaration of War was lost behind a radiator while Pearl Harbour was being frakked?
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Old October 19 2013, 03:30 AM   #7442
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So you think it's kinda like how the Japanese Declaration of War was lost behind a radiator while Pearl Harbour was being frakked?
Well, I wouldn't use that analogy.
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Old October 19 2013, 03:31 AM   #7443
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Yep. They walked off the book so DC wasn't going to let them finish anything. Looking forward to them taking over Detective Comics.
Manapul and Buccellato are taking over Detective Comics. Williams and Blackman have quit DC entirely.
Really? I thought Williams was doing that Sandman mini with Neil Gaiman.
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Old October 19 2013, 03:34 AM   #7444
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You would think they would let them finish off the arc, or at least finish the issues they had started to work on.
They weren't fired. They quit. They didn't want to change their story so they walked rather than compromise.
I heard about all of that. I was just wondering if something else happened that made them decide to leave early.
Once again, the DC editors made themselves look bad at their New 52 panel at NYCC. Or at least worse then Marvel.
You'd think by now they'd be ready and willing to tackle those kinds of questions.
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Old October 19 2013, 03:36 AM   #7445
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Contractual obligations aside obviously, unless they want DC to release the lawyers.
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Old October 19 2013, 03:43 AM   #7446
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You would think they would let them finish off the arc, or at least finish the issues they had started to work on.
They weren't fired. They quit. They didn't want to change their story so they walked rather than compromise.
I heard about all of that. I was just wondering if something else happened that made them decide to leave early.
Once again, the DC editors made themselves look bad at their New 52 panel at NYCC. Or at least worse then Marvel.
You'd think by now they'd be ready and willing to tackle those kinds of questions.
Maybe I've missed some issue but which characters does this refer to?

The problem became apparent when one fan pointed out that DC had killed off so many of its female/non-straight/ethnically diverse characters recently that it was starting to feel like tokenism to her.
ETA On the subject of women in comics, how does Marvel compare to DC?

For DC off the top of my head
Artist-Nicola Scott, Amanda Connor
Writers-Gail Simone, Christy Marx, Ann Nocenti,
Editorial-Bobbie Chase, Katie Kubert.
Executive-Diane Nelson

DeConnick is the only female I can think of at Marvel. Especially in the big three jobs: Editor, writer and artist. So its great that she speaks up, but is Marvel listening?

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Old October 19 2013, 04:07 AM   #7447
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Looks like another tempest in a teapot.
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Old October 19 2013, 04:32 AM   #7448
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They asked the public to draw naked pictures of Harlequin committing suicide as a competition.

I can see how being put on a book that you would often need to know how to draw that, but frankly it's in poor taste to glamorize mental health issues.
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Old October 19 2013, 04:38 AM   #7449
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They asked the public to draw naked pictures of Harlequin committing suicide as a competition.

I can see how being put on a book that you would often need to know how to draw that, but frankly it's in poor taste to glamorize mental health issues.
Guy Gardener is coming out against dark humor and bad taste????????

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Guy, were you just decked by Batman?
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Old October 19 2013, 04:49 AM   #7451
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I'm fine with that happening in a comic, because it's something that is likely to happen to the character.... Actually, the last 6 issues of the Harly Quinn series that finished in 2004 was a manic dream Harley was having after slitting her wrists and bleeding out in a bath tub.

Meanwhile DC asked children of all ages, to send in (10's of) thousands of naked pictures of a hot dying woman, which if they were smart they would use as a source for a poster book.

Porn drawn by 9 year olds and younger disseminated to the public at large by DC Comics?
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Old October 19 2013, 04:54 AM   #7452
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Guy, were you just decked by Batman?
That was years ago.

Geoff is no Batman.
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Old October 19 2013, 05:02 AM   #7453
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I'm fine with that happening in a comic, because it's something that is likely to happen to the character.... Actually, the last 6 issues of the Harly Quinn series that finished in 2004 was a manic dream Harley was having after slitting her wrists and bleeding out in a bath tub.

Meanwhile DC asked children of all ages, to send in (10's of) thousands of naked pictures of a hot dying woman, which if they were smart they would use as a source for a poster book.

Porn drawn by 9 year olds and younger disseminated to the public at large by DC Comics?
I don't think many nine year olds read DC Comics, (anymore) and the call was to aspiring professionals not kids.

Wait, Guy Gardener thinks a woman in a bathtub = porn?????



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Old October 19 2013, 05:10 AM   #7454
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The bath tub thing actually happened.

I'm trying to squeeze two sorta similar things into the same cookie cutter.

But you're right just, because Harley was naked in the tub, it didn't make her suicide attempt porn.

Maybe it was Erotica or really, really tragic?
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Old October 19 2013, 05:14 AM   #7455
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I'm sticking with dark humor.
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