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Old August 10 2013, 05:07 AM   #7051
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Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)

It is interesting that Porter, whom I believed designed all the 3000 characters, is now the artist on the book. I think this was brought up by people when this story first broke. DC should have just put him on the book to start with and this entire mess wouldn't have happened.

For those not liking Jai Lee's art on Batman/Superman...Brett Booth is joining the book with issue 5.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=47207

Geoff Johns confirms the Crime Syndicate!

http://www.newsarama.com/18637-geoff...lot-twist.html
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Old August 11 2013, 03:15 AM   #7052
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Allyn Gibson wrote: View Post
If Giffen wants to do a dark and gritty 31st century book, I'm there. My favorite Legion era is Giffen's "Five Years Later" era, which is all kinds of dark and gritty. If that's what DC wanted, Maguire is the wrong artist for that.
But if that's true, why did it take months to figure out?
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Old August 11 2013, 03:42 AM   #7053
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Bad direction.

McGuire should have been able to give them exactly what they wanted if they explained exactly what they wanted.

The lad used to doodle for PLayboy for frakks sake.
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Old August 11 2013, 03:56 AM   #7054
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I just looked through Maguire's gallery on the DC Comics database and it definitely does not strike me as dark and gritty. It does make one wonder what exactly they were thinking when they hired him. If you want dark and gritty, you hire someone who does dark and gritty art, it's not that hard to figure out.
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Old August 11 2013, 04:05 AM   #7055
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I just looked through Maguire's gallery on the DC Comics database and it definitely does not strike me as dark and gritty. It does make one wonder what exactly they were thinking when they hired him. If you want dark and gritty, you hire someone who does dark and gritty art, it's not that hard to figure out.
Giffen, DeMatteis and Maguire had a big hit with Justice League back in the late 1980s. Trying to capture lightning in a bottle again.
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Old August 11 2013, 04:13 AM   #7056
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This.

And later I swear Kevin draws those two at a tea party.
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Old August 11 2013, 04:34 AM   #7057
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Was that actual Darkseid and were those words supposed to be actual Darkseid dialogue...?
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Old August 11 2013, 04:53 AM   #7058
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Was that actual Darkseid and were those words supposed to be actual Darkseid dialogue...?
Yes. And yes.

Darkseid isn't always some cosmic badass. He sometimes sits in a comfy chair, drinks brandy out of a snifter, acts charming, waits to gloat to whomever he's decided to screw over this particular day, and is surprisingly chatty. Like in the Superman/Big Barda sex tape story.
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Old August 11 2013, 05:02 AM   #7059
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You haven't read Justice League (International)?

For shame!

but yes, that's the actual dialogue.

The thinking is that the Justice League showed up on Apocalypse by accident and Darkseid is not in the middle of any mad and nefarious scheme to destroy life or enslave the universe, there's really no need to be an asshole or get worked up on his day off.

He's chill.
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Old August 11 2013, 05:18 AM   #7060
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Much as I love humor, I prefer Darkseid to be dangerous and serious...
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Old August 11 2013, 01:19 PM   #7061
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My justification for that entire thing...

Miracle Man, Scott Free, is Darkseid's son, and Oberon is Scott's best friend.

Potsy and Howard Cunningham.

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I read 46 issues of Legion, legion lost and Legion Secret origin today.

Legion Lost was fantastic (to a point).

Legion of Super heores did however need to be cancelled.

Although... Once Levitz embraced the cancellation he WENT TO TOWN.

Sunboy decapitated.

Dude where's you head?

It's been mashed into a bag of jelly by a falling ceiling on a crashing starship, hasn't it?

Yes, yes it has.

TTFN head.

Everyone is just moping around saying goodbye to this headless corpse still sitting on the captains chair of a wrecked spaceship.

And the bad guy in the final battle... Emerald Empress has the upper hand on Saturn Girl... 4 legionaries have bought the farm in the last four issues, and there's one issue left in the series, and so the bad guy says this without bleeping or sensorship to Lightning Lad...

"I hope she kills your bitch slowly."

!!??!!??

The first 16 issues were puppies, rainbows, unicorns and candy canes.

####.

It's like Levitz is trying to get p/re/cancelled a couple issues early by being ####ing disgusting.
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Old August 11 2013, 01:41 PM   #7062
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From your description Guy, it sounds like if the Legion do return, that we may get some kind of New 52 reboot version of them. It saddens me what happened to this version under Levitz who is of course known for some great Legion stories back in the day. Ever since he took over though from Johns pre-relaunch though...just so erratic. I'm guessing fans have just had enough and that is one of the reasons why sales have gone down?
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Old August 11 2013, 01:53 PM   #7063
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There's one issue left.

Levitz has left the building.

Giffen is coplotting and doing the pencils, so it may even be leading into JLA 3000, similar to how DeMattias killed off Justice League Detroit before Giffen and Demattias kicked off the International Team.

Taking the wrecking ball to all this has to be SUCH FUN!

Reboot my book?

#### YOU!

You can reboot a ####ing smoking hole.
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Old August 11 2013, 04:45 PM   #7064
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^ I share the sentiment...I've loved this incarnation, so I hope it is brought back again under a different writer, but sadly I don't think that will be the case. I'll actually be surprised if it is. I knew the last issue was this month, but wasn't sure when, I may break down and get it. LONG LIVE THE LEGION!
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Old August 11 2013, 06:20 PM   #7065
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Get someone who hasn't been doing the Legion since the 80s.
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