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Old April 6 2013, 01:59 AM   #6526
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Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)

Her original costume was atleast something a stage magician would wear.
Her original costume is a top hat and tails over a Playboy Bunny uniform. She's dressed more like the assistant than the magician.
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Old April 6 2013, 02:04 AM   #6527
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Paul Dini's wife has the same costume and she is a practicing stage magician.
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Old April 6 2013, 02:14 AM   #6528
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So Dini has a Batman costume in his closet?

That explains everything.
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Old April 6 2013, 02:16 AM   #6529
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Paul Dini's wife has the same costume and she is a practicing stage magician.
Yeah, but isn't an homage to Zatanna's as opposed to an original idea? Not saying it doesn't work as a distaff spin on the classic magician's garb, but it's also very "showgirl".
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Old April 6 2013, 02:29 AM   #6530
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You remember what her father wore when he fought crime?

That made her choices as a sidekick in complimention to his garb thoroughly acceptable.

What was the rationale behind her conversion into the full on super hero suit in the 80s?
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Old April 6 2013, 02:31 AM   #6531
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So, no comments on Carrie showing up in the Batman titles? or was that so many pages back I missed it?
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Old April 6 2013, 02:38 AM   #6532
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I think that Carrie Bradshaw is the sort of character who can thrive in the Batman Books.

I'm assuming this is Carrie in her Prime before season 7 and she'll be dating Bruce Wayne?

Although a mashup with Batman Year One and the Carrie Diaries would be interesting.
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Old April 6 2013, 02:47 AM   #6533
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So, no comments on Carrie showing up in the Batman titles? or was that so many pages back I missed it?
Okay, thoughts.

My first reaction was, "That's cool."

My second reaction, after I processed the first, was, "Why her? Has anyone really clamored for her return?"

My third reaction, once I was able to articulate the second, was, "Is Carrie Kelly really that interesting a character that people are going to care? And does it make sense to call this character 'Carrie Kelly' outside of her original context, because isn't she really going to be an entirely different character within the context of the 'New 52'?"

My fourth thought, then, was, "DC is bringing Carrie back while Stephanie and Cass are still in limbo. A character who hasn't been seen in print in a decade and wasn't significantly in print in twenty-five years gets prioritized above characters who have active fanbases."

This one's baffling to me, honestly.
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Old April 6 2013, 02:47 AM   #6534
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So, no comments on Carrie showing up in the Batman titles? or was that so many pages back I missed it?
At this point, I'm convinced DC is just messing with us with all the potential Robins.

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My fourth thought, then, was, "DC is bringing Carrie back while Stephanie and Cass are still in limbo. A character who hasn't been seen in print in a decade and wasn't significantly in print in twenty-five years gets prioritized above characters who have active fanbases."

This one's baffling to me, honestly.
It's really not. There is a current embargo on Steph and Cass because of the current Batgirl book. Didio doesn't want them outshining Barbara (which isn't very hard currently).
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Old April 6 2013, 02:49 AM   #6535
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You remember what her and wore when he fought crime?

That made her choices as a sidekick in complimention to his garb thoroughly acceptable.

What was the rationale behind her conversion into the full on super hero suit in the 80s?
Leotards and ponytails rock?
IIRC, her first "full on superhero suit" was based on what her mother wore. Her mother was Homo Magi, so I guess its an ethnic costume. Or are you thinking of the Perez costume?
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Old April 6 2013, 04:08 AM   #6536
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The Perez.

I did some goggling after that post I made, and found that other midpoint missing link costume you're referring to and it's clear that "she" put as much thought into that suit as Spider-Man did with his first costume back when he was still wrestling.

You're all aware that the nerd girl Dunphy daughter from Modern Family played Carrie in the movies that came out in the last couple months? (And maybe I missed a page in this thread where this is all covered?)

Dark Knight Returns was cut in half and released as two direct to video movies which were loyal and explicit. My 10 year old Nephew said "This is the most brutal thing I have ever seen". I blame his parents for giving him such a sheltered life, but still that was almost three hours of animated pure Miller misogyny and sadism.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2313197/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2

It's called synergy.

Movies sell the comics and comics sell the movies.

If Dark Knight returns sells well.

There's a sequel they can pull out that's still got a lot of Carrie in it.

Catgirl?

Sheesh.

She will always be Robin to me.
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Old April 6 2013, 06:13 AM   #6537
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Carrie Kelly is interesting...something that I personally didn't think about it happening. It will be fascinating to see what Tomasai does with her.

Scott Lobdell has been appointed to take over "Action Comics" as of July's #22. Tyler Kirkmam...I had a feeling that Lobdell would be given it due to his work on "Superman". That's too much Lobdell for me with one character.
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Paul Dini's wife has the same costume and she is a practicing stage magician.
Yeah, but isn't an homage to Zatanna's as opposed to an original idea? Not saying it doesn't work as a distaff spin on the classic magician's garb, but it's also very "showgirl".
Of course. One of a magicians chief weapons is misdirection. With a costume like that fewer people are going to be watching her hands.
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Old April 6 2013, 02:53 PM   #6539
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Just looked over the JL Dark Annual that told the back story of Constantine and Zee. Nothing at all that would hint that she was a stripper. Of her act, we see exactly one panel where she appears in a puff of smoke. John's narration descibes the act as being 40 minutes long, which, I'm pretty sure is about 35+ minutes too long to be a striptease.
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Paul Dini's wife has the same costume and she is a practicing stage magician.
Yeah, but isn't an homage to Zatanna's as opposed to an original idea? Not saying it doesn't work as a distaff spin on the classic magician's garb, but it's also very "showgirl".
Of course. One of a magicians chief weapons is misdirection. With a costume like that fewer people are going to be watching her hands.
Isn't that why magicians have sexy assistants in the first place?
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