DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)

[Nerys Myk]

Yeah, it's like they're a business or something.

[Professor Zoom]

Nerys Myk wrote:

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Yeah, it's like they're a business or something.

Though, with some decisions, one has to wonder. But, yeah.

Though, I will give them credit: Levitz didn't go ahead with any sort of Watchmen stuff because Moore didn't approve. It was only after new people came in that they decided (rightly or wrongly) to exploit the Watchmen IP.

[Icemizer]

Does anyone have any numbers of how well all the Watchman stuff sold? I have not purchased any of it as I will wait for the super cheap trades at con time in a year or so.

[Allyn Gibson]

Icemizer wrote:

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Does anyone have any numbers of how well all the Watchman stuff sold? I have not purchased any of it as I will wait for the super cheap trades at con time in a year or so.

If I remember from the articles at Comics Beat correctly, all of the books started out around the 100k mark and finished around the 50k mark. Check out this article; it has the numbers for October, and the article recaps the previous months' numbers as well to show the trendlines.

[Admiral_Young]

I think the delay that happened really fizzled any real momentum that they had. I don't think we've ever got an explanation why the releases halted, I suspect that it has something to do with Joe Kubert's death. That's the only thing I can think of for why releases were suddenly halted for so long.

Aquaman #17: Another great issue, and the art has been terrific since Reis left. His departure hasn't affected the book at all. Arthur seems to be growing his beard again since there was some noticeable stubble. The pace of this book is exceptionally good as well.

[Derishton]

I still suspect Damian is back by the end of Batman, Inc., but I admit it doesn't look good. Dan Slott over at the Gear-Grinding Spider-man could take a few lessons here about how to play fair with the reader while simultaneously crushing their spirit. Morrison's whole Bat-run has been great, but Batman Inc is pure epic (with more than a nod to Tomasi and Cornell, who both produced some of the great Dick/Damian stories that cemented their bond, played on so well here.)

[Admiral_Young]

Comparing what Morrison has done with Damian and what Slott has done with Peter are two entirely different things. Peter Parker is still alive albeit not physically , and as I've mentioned in the Marvel thread many times now, Superior Spider-Man is part of a larger still ongoing story line that has been unfolding since Slott took over Amazing full time. Morrison is concluding his run and concluding a character arc that he created and started himself. I don't think the two are comparable at all, nor does Slott need to "take lessons". Besides which everyone knows that Peter will be back in his body at some point...we don't know that with Damian right now.

[Trekker4747]

A year from now Superman and Diana have sex for the first time, Superman experiences his first, full-fledged, orgasm with the only woman on the planet he can do that with (who is also not his cousin.) As expected Superman's orgasmic powers is so intense it fractures space, time, and logic causing Diana to eventually give birth to a resurrected Damian who rapidly ages to a young adult and then he ages normally. The new, older Damien sets on the world as a new superhero.

[Allyn Gibson]

Derishton wrote:

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I still suspect Damian is back by the end of Batman, Inc., but I admit it doesn't look good.

I claim no ownership of this theory. Someone posted it at Bleeding Cool a few weeks ago, and after I read it, I went, "Yeah, that's a very Morrisonian thing to do."

Bruce goes through literal Hell to retrieve Damian's soul and has to tangle with Dr. Hurt one last time. He recovers Damian's soul, but there's a catch. Damian comes back, but as the computer soul of Robin the Toy Wonder of the 853rd-century (DC One Million). Ultimately, Damian gets to be Robin forever, albeit in the far, far future.

[Admiral_Young]

That would be really interesting. I dunno if we're going to see Hurt again, but I wouldn't be surprised if Talia put Bruce some kind of battle for Damian's soul. The grand finale just got really interesting. Morrison has just kept building and building the anticipation and escalation throughout the second volume.

[Silvercrest]

Trekker4747 wrote:

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A year from now Superman and Diana have sex for the first time, Superman experiences his first, full-fledged, orgasm with the only woman on the planet he can do that with (who is also not his cousin.) As expected Superman's orgasmic powers is so intense it fractures space, time, and logic causing Diana to eventually give birth to a resurrected Damian who rapidly ages to a young adult and then he ages normally. The new, older Damien sets on the world as a new superhero.

So... "banging" on the walls of reality?

[Hartzilla2007]

Admiral_Young wrote:

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Besides which everyone knows that Peter will be back in his body at some point...

Around May 2, 2014. And thats not if the after Age of Ultron they reboot rumor is true, which it probably isn't given how juvenile Marvel is being about the New 52.

[Captain Craig]

Admiral_Young wrote:

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The Channel 52 stuff is lame.

WHEW!!...so it's not just me then.

[Allyn Gibson]

Captain Craig wrote:

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WHEW!!...so it's not just me then.

I know that DC's getting a lot of hate for it this week -- since it spoils the ending of Batman Inc #8 -- but I actually like it this week because, when read after the closing pages of BI #8, it works as a breaking news report on what we just read. It feels honest to me.

[Admiral_Young]

I get why they're doing it, touching upon major plot points that are going on in the major books. I don't like the art for it though, and just think it's a little lame. Maybe it will improve over time.