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Old September 15 2011, 07:11 PM   #541
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Kinda bummed about the new Green Lantern. I really wanted to get into it fresh, but it appears to just be picking up from some earlier storyline that I don't know or care about. And the Guardians suddenly making Sinestro a corp member again?? Even with what little I know, that seems like WAY too big a stretch with all the shit that character's done over the years.

And who the hell is this Damian kid in the Batman and Robin title? Wish DC would have thought some of this stuff through more for newbies like me, who don't want to spend hours researching everything on wikipedia beforehand just to undersand what's going on. lol
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Old September 15 2011, 07:11 PM   #542
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He's what the book said he was. Batman's son.
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Old September 15 2011, 07:37 PM   #543
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Kinda bummed about the new Green Lantern. I really wanted to get into it fresh, but it appears to just be picking up from some earlier storyline that I don't know or care about. And the Guardians suddenly making Sinestro a corp member again?? Even with what little I know, that seems like WAY too big a stretch with all the shit that character's done over the years.
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I agree though, that it's a shame the titles didn't create a jumping on point for new readers. Between the movie, and the reboot, I would imagine there would be several new people interested in the title. Instead, they're coming in during the middle of a story that requires several years of back story for.
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Old September 15 2011, 07:38 PM   #544
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Nevertheless, my point is everyone is the same shape...as you said, big busts--which Amanda REALLY has now, and a tiny waist.
I think the "Oprah" rationale offered by Guy works. Maybe she'll balloon again later...in fact, you can make book on it.
Amanda loses a team on a mission. Turns to food to bury her feelings of guilt.

I don't think that's a book. that's the next Mutha Fucking Summer Cross Over Event!

All the Heroes! Consumed with Guilt! Turn to FOOD!

They should totally get Ben and Jerry's to sponsor the cross over event.
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Old September 15 2011, 07:41 PM   #545
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Uh davejames it's been mentioned many times in this thread that Damian is Bruce's son and has been since Morrison introduced him in Batman and Son. Also I don't know if you read Green Lantern #1 properly because Gauntlet was most definitely against Sinestro being in the Corp and the rest of the Guardians made it quite clear that it was the ring that chose Thaal not them. Green Lantern is not a fresh start, it has been known for months that it was taking place after the current story line which was War of the Green Lanterns.
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Old September 15 2011, 07:45 PM   #546
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Also I don't know if you read Green Lantern #1 properly because Ganthet was most definitely against Sinestro being in the Corp
Fixed that for you.
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Old September 15 2011, 07:47 PM   #547
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Green Lantern is not a fresh start, it has been known for months that it was taking place after the current story line which was War of the Green Lanterns.
But for those who are starting or rejoining, the new 52 was advertised as a great time to jump on. They should've made it so. I'm not saying they had to start GL over... but help identify key things for new readers. One method was in Animal Man--the interview at the beginning of the book.
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Old September 15 2011, 07:50 PM   #548
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^ Indeed which has been my problem with the relaunch from the start. They've claimed it was to bring in new readers but like I have stated it seems they didn't want to totally alienate their long time fans either so they tried to have their cake and eat too. It has a forced mentality to it that I don't like.


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Old September 15 2011, 07:52 PM   #549
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Which is TRUE, BUT... her size also helps her stand out in a frame of a bunch of other people. That's how we ALWAYS recognized Amanda, even in silhouette. AND, let's have a little diversity of size. Or is everyone in the nuDCU a size 0?
I can't think of any female superheroes in comics who look to be a size 0 - artists like to draw them all with big busts and hips and waists that are unreasonably small.
I was using 0 because I don't know women's sizes for shit. I've been married for 6 years and I have no idea what size my wife is. So, I plucked a number out of the air.

Nevertheless, my point is everyone is the same shape...as you said, big busts--which Amanda REALLY has now, and a tiny waist.
23 inch waist. Fun fact: Prada, Versace, and Armani have all banned size zeros from modeling their clothes. Well, it's not that fun, since I like size zeros, although I understand it's a dangerous size for 95% of the population.

In comics, really tiny waists but gargantua tits isn't out of the norm. Maybe that's why they all wear costumes; if you've got to get something specially tailored, might as well go all out. Another fun fact: when you google "small waist large breasts clothing" google knows that "tits" is a synonym for breasts! Judgment Day is coming.

P.S.: speaking of tits, there's a scene in Batwoman that bugs me, when Bette Kane is putting on a relatively slack training outfit. She's not wearing a bra. Maybe I'm off-base--not having boobs myself I can not speak with final authority--but I find this somewhat unlikely, or at least unwise.
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Old September 15 2011, 07:57 PM   #550
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^ Indeed which has been my problem with the relaunch from the start. They've claimed it was to bring in new readers but like I have stated it seems they didn't want to totally alienate their long time fans either so they tried to have their cake and eat too. It has a forced mentality to it that I don't like.
I understand why they wouldn't want to alienate their current fans. That makes sense--as they will most likely continue to be the biggest part of the readership.

But, it doesn't have to be an either/or situation--either a hard reboot or just continue on.

It looks like what they are doing is we're stepping into the story already in progress. (The story meaning the DCU). For everyone, some stuff has already happened. They don't need to start over, they just need, as writers and artists, find an efficient and easy way to get the new readers up to speed.

Like that 1 page synopsis of Supes origins in All Star Superman. Or Buddy's interview in Animal Man.

For decades comics brought in new readers without having to reboot--because the writers and the artists were conscience that any issue might be the one to bring people in.
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Old September 15 2011, 08:07 PM   #551
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I understand why they wouldn't want to alienate their current fans. That makes sense--as they will most likely continue to be the biggest part of the readership.

But, it doesn't have to be an either/or situation--either a hard reboot or just continue on.
Yep.

The books with the biggest established readership change least. That makes sense.
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Old September 15 2011, 08:15 PM   #552
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I can't think of any female superheroes in comics who look to be a size 0 - artists like to draw them all with big busts and hips and waists that are unreasonably small.
Well, only the ones drawn by Rob Liefeld.
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Old September 15 2011, 08:16 PM   #553
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@Dennis That doesn't explain Superman though...unless DC thought his readership base was down of course Out of all DC's characters Supes seems to get the most tinkering done to him. I could understand how that would annoy fans. For the most part though I've had no problem with the tinkering done to him over the last few years, and I'll get over no more Lois and Clark (fictional wedding or not )
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^ That doesn't explain Superman though...unless DC thought his readership base was down of course
And wasn't it?

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I can't think of any female superheroes in comics who look to be a size 0 - artists like to draw them all with big busts and hips and waists that are unreasonably small.
Well, only the ones drawn by Rob Liefeld.
No, most of them.
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Old September 15 2011, 08:22 PM   #555
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@Dennis That doesn't explain Superman though...unless DC thought his readership base was down of course
I don't think they THOUGHT his readership was down... it WAS down... compared to Batman and Green Lantern.
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