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Old February 10 2012, 08:04 PM   #3376
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Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)

Of course they were, I'm well aware of that. Talking about the current version of the Justice Society though with Jay, Ted, etc. Oh and I'm not complaining or anything. Just Didio made a big deal about mention the JSA were going to be back about this and I'm pretty sure he wasn't bragging the version with the big three.
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Old February 10 2012, 08:20 PM   #3377
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Admiral I would say that this version of the big three will be off the table, setting it for more familiar characters by the end of the first issue if not the first arc. The line about a "great cost being suffered" leads me to believe this.

Power Girl without cleavage?! Whos bad idea was this? Outrage! I say, Outrage!
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Old February 10 2012, 08:58 PM   #3378
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yeah, nice cover and all but where is the JSA? this is the variant...so where is the real cover?
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Old February 10 2012, 09:03 PM   #3379
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Ahhh...I missed the part about it being a variant. Maybe the actual cover will have the JSA on it.

Rich comments on the cover and has a different take as to who the characters actually are...but he has the same question I do about the JSA.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/02/...son-gets-ears/
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Old February 10 2012, 10:04 PM   #3380
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The boob window outrage is funny. PG dumped that version of her costume early on ( by her seventh appearance) and it was only brought back when she re-joined the JSA around 2002. Memorable, but hardly iconic.
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Old February 10 2012, 10:54 PM   #3381
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Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)

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Covers revealed for the Earth 2 books.

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/dc-e...er-120210.html

I kind of like the Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman one. I thought the whole point of this other book was to showcase the Justice Society?
Bleeding Cool says that it's Dick Grayson as Batman, so Wonder Woman might be Donna. In that case, Superman might be Clark Kent, Jr.
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Old February 10 2012, 11:19 PM   #3382
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I just took that though as Rich speculating on it being those characters. I think the Newsarama article says there are alternate versions of the characters so who knows what is going on with this. For some reason I'm thinking this isn't the project fans were hoping for.

Another crossover event for the New 52, and it would seem we're getting a new Beast Boy.

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/tita...ng-120210.html
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Old February 11 2012, 12:12 AM   #3383
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I just took that though as Rich speculating on it being those characters. I think the Newsarama article says there are alternate versions of the characters so who knows what is going on with this. For some reason I'm thinking this isn't the project fans were hoping for.
It doesn't look like what I was expecting, no. I thought we'd get a world that was like the Earth-2 we saw during Geoff Johns' run on Justice Society (near the end, when he was doing the Kingdom Come stuff). But those costumes on the Trinity, and the Supergirl and Robin costumes on the cover to World's Finest, are showing that Earth-2 is a really different place.
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Old February 11 2012, 12:18 AM   #3384
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It seems to be. What I don't get is that when this was first announced Dan DiDio went out of his way to say stuff like JSA is back, or Justice Society fans can rest easy...the Earth 2 thing is fine, and perhaps this is a case of overreaction but I dunno why you would promote the big three on a JSA project...and I do know they were members of the Classic team as I noted before. Unless it is just a variant cover and there is more to come.
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Old February 11 2012, 12:43 AM   #3385
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I assume the "real cover" will feature the other members of the JSA. Before COIE Superman and Wonder Woman were featured pretty regularly in Earth 2 based adventures. Superman even had his own strip "Mr and Mrs Superman" and Wonder Woman starred in the WW title for a while. ( Mostly because the TV show was WWII based at the time). Batman was the only E2 counterpart that more or less stayed retired, with only one or two appearance in costume post WWII.

With the costume modifications of the big three ( the the two legacies) I'm curious what the others will look like. Will purple capes, puffy sleeves and mercury helms fall by the wayside?

Oh, and don't those creatures the E2-B3 are fighting look like Parademons? Could Darkseid be far behind? And will it take the heroes of two worlds to defeat him?
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Old February 11 2012, 12:50 AM   #3386
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^Lets hope not, but probably.

May seems to be DC's multiverse intro month, what with the Earth 2 books and the return of the Black Superman in Action #9. They do look like parademons, I guess following the Final Crisis model, Darkseid could be the multiversal big bad.

I'm looking forward to it.
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Old February 11 2012, 05:53 AM   #3387
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^ Which makes sense if they finally release Mutiversity this summer.


I just had another additional thought about this Earth 2 business...they've described it as being much darker, different than our universe or whatever. Well Grant Morrison fans of course would recognize that description and the Earth 2 from his JLA Earth 2 graphic novel which reintroduced the Cryme Syndicate. Are DC introducing a New 52 version of this? There are supposed to be 52 Earth's!!! I guess there are multiple copies of the same Earth in that multiverse pantheon? Or was the Morrison Earth reclassified. EDIT: Oh yeah...seems Wikipedia says that Earth is now Earth Three. Okay nope...the JLA Earth 2 Earth (sigh) is in Qward? LOL This is ridiculous, even for me.
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Old February 11 2012, 04:33 PM   #3388
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DC' Dark line continues to impress.

Last night I read Demon Knights #6 and Resurrection Man #6.
With Mitch Shelly in Arkham it of course adds another layer of familiarity so I'm inclined to say of the two I enjoyed it more last night. Both were good reads though. The siege of the town in DK is dragging out a bit imo but the character interplay has been fun.
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It seems to be. What I don't get is that when this was first announced Dan DiDio went out of his way to say stuff like JSA is back, or Justice Society fans can rest easy...the Earth 2 thing is fine, and perhaps this is a case of overreaction but I dunno why you would promote the big three on a JSA project...and I do know they were members of the Classic team as I noted before. Unless it is just a variant cover and there is more to come.
Yeah, exactly. I think the "outrage" is justified here. While I don't think I'd mind the Justice Society in a world with another version of the trinity, I certainly don't want to see them as the stars.

JSA attracted me from the start because they didn't have the name-brand superheroes. I loved learning about all of these heroes who aren't a part of the public consciousness. Mr. Terrific, Hourman, Dr. Mid-Nite, Stargirl, Jay Garrick, Dr. Fate, Alan Scott, Wildcat. Regardless of Bats, Supes and Wondy being a part of the team at some point, they don't interest me as members of the JSA. If this is just going to be an alternate universe version of the Justice League, I'm not interested.

Two things that could get me re-interested in the project are: If this varient is showing the bad things to happen and that Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman die in the first issue or arc, leaving the JSA to take over. Or if they are Dick, Donna and someone that's not Clark Kent. I'd prefer it if Power Girl took the place of Superman, but I'd be okay with it being his son or something. Because at the end of the day, alternate universe Justice League doesn't interest me.
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Old February 12 2012, 04:58 AM   #3390
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What if Earth Two is an anthology series and each arc focuses on different heroes/teams? Furthering the theory, what if the first issue/arc depicts an alternate trinity as a gateway for readers to jump on?
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