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Old January 26 2012, 04:25 AM   #3181
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^ Not to mention atrocious dialogue and the characters being caricatures of themselves...but we've brought all this up before many times in the thread. I'm mainly sticking with it because i kind of want to see how this origin arc concludes and the jump forward to the present with the second arc. I'll probably make my final decision after the second issue of the second arc...I'm patient, but not that patient.

Also it was "Superman" that I dropped after last month finally. Not reading it until Griffin and Jurgens are aboard.


Justice League #5: Well...yeah. Still have the same problems with this book that I have had since the first issue, I would say this is maybe the best issue so far. I enjoyed the discussion betweenn Bruce and Hal. Bruce would never unmask in the freaking middle of a major battle though under any reason! Even against aliens. WTF? I understand he was attempting to level with Jordan but seriously unmasking? I don't care that there wasn't anyone in the immediate area, Bruce would never take that chance under any circumstances. I don't know if this was done for "shock" value, or because it hasn't really been done for, but I don't get Johns reason for doing so except for trying to reach through ass hole dumb ass Hal. Darkseid is immensely powerful. I think this might be his most powerful incarnation yet. The art is fantastic as usual. Otherwise yeah...same old as usual.

Aquaman #5: Arthur is lost in the desert. That whole sequence reminded me of Luke on Hoth and Obi-Wan's force ghost. The holographic Atlantean message reminded me of Action Comics when Clark finally sees the message of Jor-El. Sigh. This has to be the weakest issue of the book so far. It is starting the Who Sunk Atlantis arc though.
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Old January 26 2012, 02:29 PM   #3182
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Darkseid was always insanely powerful. If anything he was weak here because he just stood there standing around while the heroes were attacking him and arguing about what to do about him.

And I feel that Aquaman also suffers from endless splash pages resulting in a teeny tiny story. Can't we find a balance between the dialogue-thick Superman and the dialogue/panel-free JL/Aquaman?
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Old January 26 2012, 03:14 PM   #3183
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I worked a 13hr day yesterday and didn't get to my LCS.
Looking through reminds me to get Aquaman #5 though.
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Old January 26 2012, 04:50 PM   #3184
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I got my books, haven't read them yet.
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Old January 26 2012, 08:26 PM   #3185
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I'm glad I'm not paying $4 a pop for Justice League because it is just a bunch of splashpages. We're five issues in and there's been about two issues worth of story so far. Wow.
I've enjoyed the book at times; I like the brashness of the characters, which I don't see as caricature necessarily. But the price is too steep and it's clear to me that I'll enjoy the arc more all at once.

Batwoman is similar for me: I love the book, it's fantastic. But Comixology on my little laptop can't do it justice, and I'm nowhere near a LCS.
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Old January 26 2012, 08:30 PM   #3186
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My question is this: does Batman want to beat up soldiers too? God, Batman really is an asshole. Why does anyone like him?
Sorry, but when I read that all I could think of was this. (Warning: Minor spoilers for Batman: Arkham City)
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Old January 27 2012, 12:12 AM   #3187
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Action Comics #6 preview. Long Live the Legion! Also "Doctor Who" reference!

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...eview&id=11285
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Old January 27 2012, 02:34 AM   #3188
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Superman #5: Pretty good, really. I still think the over-narrating is bogging this book down but overall this issue wasn't too bad.

Aquaman #5: Really good book, the Aquaman run has been really nice and impressive, the art in this book is great too. I liked how this book was intercut between the "present" (with AC stuck in a desert) and the "past" with the events leading up to him being in the desert. This book needs more Mera, though. I read this book before taking a nap and ended up having a dream about her. What can I say? I have a thing for a chesty, lusty, red-heads.

The Flash #5: This book I'm starting to enjoy more and more and the artwork in continues to really impress.

The Dark Knight #5: This has been one of my more least favorite of the Batman books but this book with The Scarecrow wasn't too bad. I do want to quibble that the bulk of the book has Batman laying some powerful punches onto Superman which, sorry, no. It almost reads like complete and total fanwank (in one page Superman is apparently punched by Batman and tossed several feet away. Not to start a whole Batman v Superman thing here but it just doesn't fit at all. The book shows Superman actually taking punches from Batman and showing pain from them or at least being knocked for a loop for them. Unless this turns out to be an illusion created by Scarecrow's toxin, this idea is just pure Batman Fanwanking and nothing else. If Superman took a punch from Batman he wouldn't be thrown several feet he would hardly notice it and laugh while Batman nurses a shattered hand.
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Old January 27 2012, 02:55 AM   #3189
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^^

You realize that Scarecrow injected Batman with same steroid cocktail he gave all the other villains in the preceeding issues making him super-strong, right? I did think it was odd that they didn't exaggerate his musculature as much as they did with the baddies.
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Old January 27 2012, 03:03 AM   #3190
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Yeah, I thought about that but then there was the issue of them not rendering him visually bulked up and he was still fighting Superman.
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Old January 27 2012, 05:41 AM   #3191
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Trekker I don't know weather to admire your patience or to pity you with Dark Knight! Yeah Finch really wanted his book to be different and more "grittier" than the other Bat-Family books. This was his intention prior to the relaunch. Unfortunately while his art is kick ass mostly, his writing and plotting is crap (worse than Daniel in my opinion) and from what I continue to hear is that Jenkins has not been any better. It's clearly the worse of the Bat-Family books followed by Detective Comics.


Scott Snyder talks even more about Night of Owls. I really like that Bruce Wayne cowless art. I know it's been shown in every other article associated with this story but I think it looks awesome. I don't know if anyone else has noticed this but it would appear that Bruce is getting an updated costume tweak for this crossover.

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Old January 27 2012, 07:35 AM   #3192
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The Dark Knight book is the one I am most on the fence about, I can go either way on it, frankly. I'm very close to dropping Detective and B&R, though. As far as I'm concerned "Batman" is the best of Batman's titles.
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Old January 27 2012, 08:01 AM   #3193
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^ I agree about "Batman" and I'm pumped for "Batman Incorporated'. Morrison's grand finale and the war against Talia is going to be epic!
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Old January 27 2012, 04:17 PM   #3194
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Court of Owls does sound interesting but I dont' want to get my hopes up. A few let downs of late in DC has me cautious. Besides I'm going to wait for the trade so the earliest I'll read it will be 3rd Q this year most likely.
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Old January 27 2012, 05:15 PM   #3195
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The event is actually called The Night of Owls which of course deals with the Court of Owls. It's Scott Synder who hasn't disappointed yet. I can't speak for the rest of the Bat-Family books but this will be focused in "Batman" and spread out to the rest.
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