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Old December 31 2011, 04:03 PM   #2836
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^ Yep. Also the "All Star" line was meant to be that as well but that kind of has fallen through. Hopefully Earth One sticks around for a while longer.

Also I'm not sure we can call the period of time prior to the relaunch a "lame duck" period since no one knew (except industry insiders of course and the news sites who had signed non disclosure deals) about the relaunch plans until Bleeding Cool broke the story. All we really knew is that something big was being planned for after Flashpoint. For all anyone knew at the time it was just another event not a relaunch of the line. All DC's books were still telling their regular arcs and most books ended abruptly due to the relaunch in Sep.
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Old December 31 2011, 04:27 PM   #2837
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Aquaman #4 - I agree this was a great wrap up to the opening Trench storyline. However, it's clear it's more of a "till next time". I don't for a second think there isn't another way out of there. Aquaman and Mera were only in that one section briefly and as animalistic as they were would have another way out, especially for their queen. I'm still trying to figure out if they want us to believe the Trench are devolved original Atlantans or extra terrestrial? The little kid at the end "You're my favorite superhero was nice" only to be paired with the adult resurer on shore going "I still don't like him".
Oh, and Johns is just F*^king with us right....Aqua-dog. He'll have a real name next time, right? I'm down with an Aquacave, I'll meet him halfway, but dog?
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Old December 31 2011, 04:29 PM   #2838
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I'm several weeks behind. I have a lot to catch up on.
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Old December 31 2011, 04:30 PM   #2839
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AquaDog was clearly meant to be a joke. I'm sure the dog will get an actual name. Kind of reminded me of Shelby from "Smallville" actually.
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Old December 31 2011, 05:17 PM   #2840
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My pull list is currently:

Action Comics
All-Star Western
Animal Man
Aquaman
Batman
Batman Inc.
Batman & Robin
Batwing
Batwoman
Demon Knights
Frankenstein
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Resurrection Man
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Ultimates
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Old January 1 2012, 01:56 AM   #2841
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If you ignore the lame duck six months or so leading up to the reboot, I absolutely preferred the old DCU to the new one. Action Comics, Justice League, and Batman are cooler now, but I miss the old world and the years of continuity built up.

And I'm still rankled by the "soft" reboot where somethings remained and somethings didn't, it's just so confusing to try and understand how the old stories are supposed to exist anymore. I almost would have preferred a start from scratch. Or, why didn't they just do an "Ultimate DCU" line if they want to reboot somethings but not others?
Why worry about what fits or doesn't? If it shows up in an issue, it fits. Until then assume it doesn't.
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Old January 1 2012, 02:07 AM   #2842
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It's not really "worrying" about what fits or doesn't, it is the fact that the timeline as they have it now makes absolutely no sense and is just plain silly. Some of the stuff that has cropped up already just has made me laugh out loud at the ridiculousness of it. *Shrugs*.
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Old January 1 2012, 02:37 AM   #2843
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It's not really "worrying" about what fits or doesn't, it is the fact that the timeline as they have it now makes absolutely no sense and is just plain silly. Some of the stuff that has cropped up already just has made me laugh out loud at the ridiculousness of it. *Shrugs*.
I'm not gonna sweat it, myself. As long as I enjoy the book I don't care whats happening in other books. I pretty much over the shared universe thing driving the storytelling.
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Old January 1 2012, 05:29 AM   #2844
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Justice League was fun, but to me, it's just filler.
All comics are "just filler." So, for that matter, is most entertainment and sports of any kind. JLA is no more or less "filler" than anything else I've seen published by DC or Marvel...ever, actually. All that matters to me is that JLA entertains me - I rarely bought DC comics in the ten years or so before the nuDC, because when I did they didn't hold my interest (GL would be the exception).

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Why worry about what fits or doesn't? If it shows up in an issue, it fits. Until then assume it doesn't.
Exactly - I'm not having a problem here. Of course, it helps that I didn't give a fuck about the oldDC. They say that Superman still died? Okay, I remember paying a lot of attention to that at the time, so I guess I'm glad it's still around.
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Old January 1 2012, 06:13 AM   #2845
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You'll go crazy trying to make continuity fit from what was before. However, with the exception of GL and Batman, it seems like it is largely a clean slate for most the characters.
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Old January 1 2012, 06:18 AM   #2846
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Oh I haven't tried making anything fit...it's simply too silly to do that Although I'm sure if EJA were around he'd have made an attempt.
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Old January 2 2012, 01:10 AM   #2847
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I'm getting pretty bored with Superboy. Not liking the art too much, either - though that's probably just because Caitlin used to be hot when she muscled up, and in this version she just looks like the Hulk. Bummer.

Supergirl is still pretty enjoyable.
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Old January 2 2012, 01:12 AM   #2848
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The last issue was really lack luster and Lobdell is dragging out the "mystery" of Superboy's creation. There's too much going on in the book IMO. I thought it started out interesting but it is starting to teeter on being dropped.
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Old January 2 2012, 01:53 AM   #2849
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One problem is that Superboy's narration is detached, deadpan and flat. This is suitable for the character and would be a nice contrast with the humans - except that they also come across as detached and unfeeling. Even dialogue and behavior which is supposed to be angry and menacing is unpersuasive, and almost everyone sounds alike.
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Old January 2 2012, 03:07 AM   #2850
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Justice League Dark #4

This opening arc is really starting to accumulate a body count. One has to wonder how other heroes don't show up really. I know this is the intro arc for getting these guys together and we have about half of them together at this point. I'm ready for the wrap up at this point. This issue was starting to lose my interest. This probably should've been one of the 4 issue arcs in the nu52.
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