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Old December 19 2011, 12:13 AM   #2716
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Demon Knights #4 - another good read, a holdover from last week for me. The origin of the Shining Knight was good, especially for me, as I know nothing of the character. I guess he's somehow immortal if I followed it correctly. High praise for the artwork.
Yes, I liked it as well - great series. I'm having fun trying to reconcile this Shining Knight with the one in Morrison's Seven Soldiers of Victory. It seems clear to me that there's a connection, and that it has something to do with the various "worlds" coming together in Flashpoint.

Then again, I study the Arthurian legend for a living, and DC's version (both 6th century and pre-historic and kinda Buddhist) has always fascinated me.

Good issue for Exoristos, too. And, as seems to be the norm for the series, at least one great Vandal Savage line.
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Old December 19 2011, 12:53 AM   #2717
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Not sure if anyone is reading Batman, Inc or not but those annotations that I posted earlier have a very interesting theory as to who Levithian is. We find out on Wed. I have to say that the theory suggested in the annotations is not something that I would have come up with on my own but kind of makes sense since Morrison sometimes likes to reference his own past work.
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Old December 19 2011, 01:54 AM   #2718
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Actually, Byrne insisted on clearing the decks. Making Kal el the sole survivor of Krypton was something he demanded as a condition of taking over the book. It wasn't something DC asked him to do.
Other way around. Byrne offered to come on and do his book in current continuity (much like on FF when he focused on the thing that made them cool and just stopped referring to the not s great stuff.). DC wanted a ground zero relaunch. So JB went away, thought about it and came back with a list of "unreasonable demands" regarding the direction of the character--expecting DC to shoot down most of them. Surprsingly DC agreed to all but one--pregnant Lara arriving on Earth in the rocket and dieing of Kryptonite poisoning after giving birth.
Okay, I don't really care if it was DC or Byrne who messed up Power Girl's origins. I was just pointing out, that as far as I can recall, COIE ended with Power Girl and Superman walking toward his fortress of solitude and the implication was that Power Girl now replaced Supergirl as his Kryptonian cousin. Her origin was then messed up later.
There is scene of Superman and Power Girl comforting each other. The caption reads "Across the breadth of the world time was spent remembering those now gone." Which refers to PG's loss of Kal-L and her Universe and Superman's loss of Supergirl.

Remember Wolfman, who wrote COIE, was also the writer of the Adventures of Superman post Crisis. He was part of the team the rebooted Superman.
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Old December 19 2011, 04:38 PM   #2719
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The funny thing about COIE is that (as far as I know), the last actual pre-crisis story (at the time rather than than 'untold tale) is a really odd tale in the final issue of DC Comics Presents where Argos City blows up over metropolis and dead kryptonians fall from the sky. A story that most people have never read.
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Old December 19 2011, 04:50 PM   #2720
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This is going to be awesome.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...eview&id=10844
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Old December 19 2011, 05:49 PM   #2721
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^^^^
I do like the idea of seeing black suited Batman alongside blue/gray suited Batman (Dick?). I wasn't reading the title but I thought both were in black when Bruce came back(from RIP) just the chestpiece was different.
Not to unlike having Red & Green Hulk together. Now if only we could separate out the identity of Gray Hulk like they've done with Bruce/Hulk, and have all three as separate, in the main title but I digress
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Old December 19 2011, 05:54 PM   #2722
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Bruce is in his Batman, Inc suit. Dick's Batman suit in Batman, Inc was blue and gray. In Batman and Robin it was more darker. I suppose the colouring has changed. I like the contrast as well. This is also the finale as Stephanie Brown's tenure as Batgirl.

Batman, Inc of course is the sequel book to Morrison's "Batman and Robin" run. It would appear that he's ignored New 52 events or that DC editorial has allowed him to continue his story. Note that the DC Comics logo does reflect the New 52 colour scheme and this book didn't return with the original New 52.
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Old December 19 2011, 05:59 PM   #2723
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Oh, yeah switching gears.

Read Swamp Thing #4 last night. I'm really digging on this title even if the multipile, cross generational revelation of the Swamp Thing is taking some getting used to. Alec and Abby doing their cross country heroics to stop little Arcane has thus far been a fun read. Another mention of "the Red" that plays into the Animal Man title. I'm wondering if next issue will wrap this or if it's going to be 6 issues. Some nu52 intro arcs have been less (like Frankenstein). An editorial did say they were going to go for more 2,3,4 issue arcs but I've not seen many as of yet.
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Old December 19 2011, 07:10 PM   #2724
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Are we getting new DC Comics logo? I had no idea the swoosh had been around since 2005.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/12/...y-for-dc-logo/
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Old December 19 2011, 09:04 PM   #2725
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Their current logo has grown on me but with an "all new" universe now is as good a time as any to rebrand your logo I suppose.

I agree I thought the 'swoosh' look had been around longer than it has.
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Old December 20 2011, 03:24 AM   #2726
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I dunno if a new logo is called for, but I've never been of the mind companies need to constantly change their logos. Tweaks in design, different fonts and stuff, sure. But full changes?

Nah. Don't see the need. It's not like DC's sales would change with a new logo, who's looking at DC's books and saying, "Man! I'd love to buy this comic but that "swoosh" logo? I dunno...."
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Old December 20 2011, 04:15 AM   #2727
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Honestly, I was surprised that they didn't have one ready to go with the launch of Justice League #1. At this point, I think it's a little silly, but it would have made sense August/September to differentiate the comics with more than just the "New 52" banner.
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Old December 20 2011, 07:13 PM   #2728
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Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. IMO if they were going to change it, they should have done it with the launch of The New 52. At this point IMO it's kinda too late.
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Old December 20 2011, 11:05 PM   #2729
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I miss the bullet.
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Old December 20 2011, 11:16 PM   #2730
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