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Old November 18 2011, 10:20 PM   #2296
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Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)

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Azzerello discusses Diana's new origin in this interview.

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/spoi...in-111118.html
Combined with the strength of issue 3, I've got high hopes for this book's future.

I've liked each issue of Wonder Woman better than the last. I love how you need to know a little bit about comics continuity, but alot about the "continuity" of ancient Greek theology and legend. And that it's not too keen on explaining it all (witness Hermes' shiny cadaceus effect). And I'm interested in the tense of Hippolyta's statement: not that she would give up a lifetime to reverse the events of the day, but that she "will" do so.

Justice League: Okay, I've read it now, and despite the fact I normally agree with Admiral Young on a whole lot, I still really like this book. It's big, it's fun, the dialogue (mostly) amuses me and I really think there's differences between the voices. I like cocky Superman cutting loose. I like half-savage Aquaman (his line is a little awkward). I like dumb Hal calling dibs like a high school quarterback and failing to even notice that actual people are actually in danger (cocky Superman does, which adds to his portrait in Action - some of the attitude is pretense, I think). And Diana's compliments to the chef: "You should be very proud of this achievement."
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Old November 18 2011, 11:05 PM   #2297
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Are we getting one shot specials for the New 52 already? Similar to Marvel's Point One issues? Rich from Bleeding Cool seems to think so.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/11/...t-the-new-dcu/
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Old November 18 2011, 11:51 PM   #2298
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I'm still trying to get over DC Presents reprinting Truman and Ostrander's The Kents in two parts, instead of just reissuing the TPB.
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Old November 19 2011, 12:02 AM   #2299
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Read Resurrection Man #3 last night.
Interested in this "middle ground" not claimed by either Heaven or Hell that seems to have a hold on Mitch and/or is responsible for him being trapped in a revolving door of resurrection. It's implied he's now being held in that space. I'm ready for more "on Earth" action next issue cause I just don't find the Body Doubles very interesting for more than a few pages at a time.
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Old November 19 2011, 12:23 AM   #2300
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Batgirl is joining Birds of Prey.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=35550

What I don't get is this comment:

"Sure, Barbara Gordon (a.k.a. Batgirl) was reluctant at first," writer Duane Swierczynski said in a teaser-filled statement. "She didn’t necessarily want to be hanging out with a gang of outlaws...and she has serious doubts about at least one member of team. But to Batgirl, friendship trumps everything, and you’ll see exactly how she finds her way to a permanent spot on the team in issues #4 and 5."

Didn't want to "hang out" with a gang of outlaws? WTF? She's Batgirl, she's already a vigilante and she founded the team. I get wanting to re-establishing herself as a hero in the field again but what Swiercyznski says makes no sense and once again to me has to do with this screwy timeline.
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Old November 19 2011, 12:43 AM   #2301
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Yeah, that doesn't sound good. Simone's Birds of Prey and Secret Six were two wheels that weren't broken, so there seems little need for the radical fix of one and the complete obliteration of the other.
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Old November 19 2011, 01:41 AM   #2302
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Azzerello discusses Diana's new origin in this interview.

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/spoi...in-111118.html
Combined with the strength of issue 3, I've got high hopes for this book's future.

I've liked each issue of Wonder Woman better than the last. I love how you need to know a little bit about comics continuity, but alot about the "continuity" of ancient Greek theology and legend. And that it's not too keen on explaining it all (witness Hermes' shiny cadaceus effect). And I'm interested in the tense of Hippolyta's statement: not that she would give up a lifetime to reverse the events of the day, but that she "will" do so.
I think this origin also gives her parental issues like Batman/Superman. In the case of WW now she is a literal bastard.
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Old November 19 2011, 05:00 AM   #2303
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Juvenile dialogue plus a joke run into the ground years ago? What's next, are the heroes' tongue's going to be hanging out over sexy French maids preparing to surrender?
Sorry, I'm not seeing any of that. I think the book is remarkably well-written, especially given what they're trying to accomplish. I like the characterizations.

Supergirl remains good this month, too. So, is her ship powered by Kryptonite?
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Old November 19 2011, 06:32 AM   #2304
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Justice League is not incredibly well written but I'm glad some of us are enjoying it.
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Old November 19 2011, 02:20 PM   #2305
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Juvenile dialogue plus a joke run into the ground years ago? What's next, are the heroes' tongue's going to be hanging out over sexy French maids preparing to surrender?
Sorry, I'm not seeing any of that. I think the book is remarkably well-written, especially given what they're trying to accomplish. I like the characterizations.
Agreed. But I am interested in this french maids book. Does it star Larfleeze?
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Old November 19 2011, 02:36 PM   #2306
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We've been focused on character here, but Justice League does one other thing pretty well: it's remarkable how much it feels like a ground floor arc. The sheer number of continuity references is overwhelming: from the big touchpoints like Steve Trevor to little ones like the staff at STAR Labs (Orr, Charles, Morrow, Ivo) and the little girl who introduces Diana to ice cream (one of the sidekicks from the Icon universe.)

The continuity guy in me really like Cyborg's new origin being so connected to the Kirby stuff (his original origin really was just "crazy dimensional blob"), but I can also see how tying everything so closely together might end up limiting this new universe somewhat. There's already a theory that OMAC is related to Motherbox tech as well.
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Old November 19 2011, 02:41 PM   #2307
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The only thing that I can say that I genuinely like about Justice League is Jim Lee's art work. Top notch Lee.
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Old November 19 2011, 04:29 PM   #2308
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Admiral, right now I find the Justice League to be pretty good. Its establishing the first meeting stuff and its doing it ok. What worries me is if the characters will remain like this or if they will "grow up' when the next arc moves to the present day. That will make or break the book for me.
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Old November 19 2011, 04:37 PM   #2309
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While I'm dropping the origin arc, I'll check back on it when they catch up to the present.
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Old November 19 2011, 08:06 PM   #2310
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I haven't particularly liked the characterization. I feel like they're doing caricatures where they take one trait and maximize to its highest potential, except Barry. However, my biggest problem is with decompression. You can't even call it serialized. Serialization is where you get a complete story that leads off into the next issue, episode or whatever. It's issue 3 and now we're just getting to a real story. That's just bad storytelling.
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