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Old November 9 2011, 04:35 AM   #2086
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it's not easy being an Aquaman fan. yeah, the Super Friends jokes get old. i dunno, just like underwater stuff and underwater heroes like Aquaman and Namor. i'm just glad to see he's finally getting some time in the sun. don't think he's had this much exposure since the Peter David days.
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Old November 9 2011, 04:58 AM   #2087
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I loved the restaurant scene in issue one. Everyone thinks that Aquaman is going to bust them up because it is a seafood restaurant! And when the guy says, how does it feel to be nobody's favorite hero, I cracked up. I really enjoyed this book and hope that issue two is a little more serious--I will pick that up as soon as the price drops a dollar.
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Old November 9 2011, 05:19 AM   #2088
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I still want an Mera ongoing.
I kind of wish she replaced Aquaman as part of the Big 7. And I'm saying this as an Aquaman fan.
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Old November 9 2011, 05:22 AM   #2089
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^ Agreed. Considering Johns affection for her I'm surprised this didn't happen.
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Old November 9 2011, 05:23 AM   #2090
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Ok, I'm clearly out of touch. The first thing I ever read where Mera played any sort of prominent role was Blackest Night. Granted, I've never really given Aquaman a chance before now. Anyone care to explain where the huge fan love comes from?
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Old November 9 2011, 05:38 AM   #2091
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Geoff Johns Johns through writing Mera discovered just how bad ass a character Aquaman really was. I've actually always been an Aquaman fan, though that comes from Peter David's run and Grant Morrison's bad ass version of Arthur in JLA. Along with the Arthurian version in "Kingdom Come".
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Old November 9 2011, 06:04 AM   #2092
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The very same Geoff Johns that everyone has been viciously hating on all throughout this thread?
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Old November 9 2011, 06:12 AM   #2093
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I think they should bring back the Will Payton Starman as written for the first 35 issues. The issue that Keith Giffen wrote (I think it was #35) is still the funniest damn comic I have ever read, even surpassing his run on JLA.
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@OdoWanKenobi...the very same writer!!!
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Old November 9 2011, 06:17 AM   #2095
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The very same Geoff Johns that everyone has been viciously hating on all throughout this thread?
Speak for yourself. I haven't hated on Johns at all.
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Old November 9 2011, 06:31 AM   #2096
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I don't hate Johns. I just have been critical of his recent works on GL.
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Old November 9 2011, 07:03 AM   #2097
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I don't hate Johns. I just have been critical of his recent works on GL.
I've personally been critical his work recently. This is kind of mean, but I feel like he's kind of buying into his own hype. Ever since Green Lantern Rebirth. He was extremely good at reinventing old characters and concepts. JSA had never been a top seller, Flash's rogues are now mentioned in the same sentence as Batman and Spider-Man's, Green Lantern and Infinite Crisis (which reintroduced the Multi-Verse) sold very well. I feel like since then, he's been doing the same time of thing, where every story has to "CHANGE THE WAY YOU THINK ABOUT _______." I hate that kind of story telling. I'd love for Johns to whittle his work load back a bit and focus and telling good stories. Right now he doesn't even seem like a writer any more, but a hype machine.

However, I will say that I loved his portrayal of Mera.
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Old November 9 2011, 07:13 AM   #2098
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^Johns is okay. I wish he hadn't gotten so big. Not because I have anything against him, but he's not a formalist in the way the game-changers of old were, your Frank Millers and Alan Moores, or even John Byrnes. He's just, you know, competent. And competence is nothing to sneeze at, but it's also nothing to elevate. And in many regards--not just workload--I think Johns has been the victim of his own success, in that he's not been pushed to exceed his limitations. I don't think he has any ambition to revolutionize the genre, let alone the medium, like Miller, Moore, Morrison, or other people whose names start with M did.

If anything, I'd say the best direct comparison is probably Chris Claremont, but even that doesn't work, because in a lot of ways Claremont did revolutionize the form. And, beyond that, Johns' latterday work lacks much of the heart that Claremont's did. I'd say it lacks the patience, too, but that's not Johns, that's the audience.

And in a way he's too, I don't know, aware of the audience? Like, for example...

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The artwork in both issues are good, loved the look of Mera and AC and overall, yeah I think I like this one!

Wow.

I like an Aquaman title. What have I become?
Someone who is breaking free of the nearly 20yrs of cliched SuperFriends jokes that he's lame and "only talks to fish".
Now if only its writer had broken free from that too.

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Now all that said, there's the subversion and hints of dissatisfaction in his Justice League and Green Lantern that please me. If I may be allowed to project a little, I can almost hear him thinking "My work's really been a bit complacent, isn't it? But what if I got a little wacky?"

Heck, even Aquaman has this sort of feel, it just didn't quite land.
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Old November 9 2011, 07:28 AM   #2099
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i don't hate Johns at all. i do agree he's kinda ran out of steam on GL since Blackest Night though. loved his run on JSA.
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I don't think that I've read anything that Geoff Johns has ever written.
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