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Old September 7 2011, 01:51 AM   #196
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Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)

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Does it feel to anyone else that saying that superheroes appeared 10 years ago rather than 5 would've been better? Less Robin turnover, after all.
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Old September 7 2011, 01:58 AM   #197
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Does it feel to anyone else that saying that superheroes appeared 10 years ago rather than 5 would've been better? Less Robin turnover, after all.
If they'd stayed with the 10yr gap then would there have been much need for this massive reboot?

In my mind I see it as something +/- 15yrs since they were on scene modernly with the JSA guys as originals and just a gap between the two.

What was the last timestamp put on the modern heroes intro into society in oldDCU? Anyone know?
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Old September 7 2011, 02:17 AM   #198
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Just bought Action and Detective. The ending of Detective is insane. Reading Action when I go to bed.
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Old September 7 2011, 04:40 AM   #199
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^ I've heard a rumor to that effect. Anyone here know for sure?
I'll check google.
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Old September 7 2011, 06:46 AM   #200
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Here are Rich from Bleeding Cool's reviews of the books that come out tomorrow...

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/...-static-shock/
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Old September 7 2011, 12:03 PM   #201
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Does it feel to anyone else that saying that superheroes appeared 10 years ago rather than 5 would've been better? Less Robin turnover, after all.
If they'd stayed with the 10yr gap then would there have been much need for this massive reboot?
The timing wouldn't affect the reasons for the reboot; I'm thinking that ten years would let them keep all the things they clearly want to keep fropm continuity.

Dennis, you have an odd definition of "trivia." I'm not windering how many Robins you can fit on the head of a pin, but about narrative issues: does the Batman/Robin team function effectively with a new Robin every year? Possibly so. I'm interested in seeing how it all works, but I think they might have made it easier on themselves.
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Old September 7 2011, 01:22 PM   #202
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Actually, on reflection, the better solution would have been to 86 some of the damn Robins. Does anyone really care about Jason Todd? And I like Tim Drake and Damian Wayne, but I'm not filled with a burning need for them to exist.

I read a comment the other day on some website to the effect that DC's relaunch shows how impatient and incapable they are of stoking enthusiasm. Ultimately, I think this is correct; the 52 different titles, and the everyone-exists-now! mentality is going to really damage how effective the relaunch will be. Not in terms of us nerds, since we're conditioned to put up with nonsense, but in terms of lapsed and new readers.
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Old September 7 2011, 01:33 PM   #203
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I agree, they've tried to do both strategies at the same time - they either need a longer history or to drop far more than they have. I'm not thrilled that they dropped the JLI - since the success of a new one seems entirely linked with nostalgia for the old one - but it makes sense given where the conpany wants to go.

As for Jason Todd, snce they've kept Batman mostly intact, there would be a Jason Todd-sized hole in there which would be hard to explain. His history does imply that Batman took a terrible oath never to have a Robin again after Todd died, a terrible oath that lasted ... a month? Two?
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Old September 7 2011, 01:35 PM   #204
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His history does imply that Batman took a terrible oath never to have a Robin again after Todd died, a terrible oath that lasted ... a month? Two?
How do we know that Jason Todd died? They simply could have changed that detail.
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Old September 7 2011, 01:47 PM   #205
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Well, we don't, that's true ... but he's still Red Hood, which implies he's had a bad day somewhere along the line. It would be hilarious if he became an anti-hero not after being murdered by the Joker, but after Batman told him he couldn't have a second cupcake or something. The Robin Internship Program takes dietary health very seriously.
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Old September 7 2011, 02:07 PM   #206
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I'm just going to assume Batman has been operating for 5-10 extra years as an urban legend.
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Old September 7 2011, 02:10 PM   #207
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Here are Rich from Bleeding Cool's reviews of the books that come out tomorrow...

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/...-static-shock/
What happened to Snyder on Detective?
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What happened to Snyder on Detective?
Snyder moved to Batman. Daniel moved to 'Tec. They just swapped books.

DC's done that before, like in the early 90s when Marv Wolfman and Jim Aparo moved from Batman to 'Tec and Alan Grant and Norm Breyfogle moved the other way.

Speaking of 'Tec, the first issue is really good. I don't know that it's the "ZOMG!" book that Bleeding Cool says it is. There's a definite "Year One" kind of feel to it (though the narration -- and the Bat-signal -- make it clear that Batman has been operating for a number of years).
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Old September 7 2011, 02:42 PM   #209
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Batman has been operating as an urban myth. Superman is the first public superhero, as we saw in Justice League #1 Hal was genuinely surprised that Batman was real. I'm pretty sure that DC confirmed over the summer time that Death in the Family happened. Remember everything that has been established in Batman, Inc or one can assume set up for Batman, Inc still happened in the Bat-Books.
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Old September 7 2011, 02:54 PM   #210
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I got bored this afternoon so I decided to go pick up some comics instead of waiting 'til next week. Picked up Action #1, Detective #1 and JLI #1. Thoughts later.
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