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Old October 28 2011, 05:51 AM   #1756
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I'm not familiar with Johns's take, but the character strikes me here as a complete caricature of an air-headed gossip columist - even more over-the-top than she was in the first season of Lois & Clark.
You got all that from the two panels she appears where the only thing revealed about her was that she is an editor of the entertainment section of the Planet and would rather interview celebrities instead of the homeless? Seems like you are inferring a helluva lot more than what was actually in the issue.
I'm not "inferring" a thing. The heavy-handed writing explicitly establishes that she's not only without any interest or empathy for anyone or anything other than the glitterati - "I don't do homeless stories...unless, of course, a celebrity is involved" - but that she is too clueless or uncaring about how shallow and narrow she appears to normally socially-functioning adults that she actually babbles to Clark about "all that boring 'social issues' stuff."

Really?

And that's only quoting two sentences of the four dialogue-drowned panels in which she monologues at Kent with an attitude and phraseology that no human being is likely ever to use and that is hard to conceive as coming from the pen of anyone other than a junior writer for Married With Children or Open House at their worst.

Inference? Jesus, Perez doesn't leave any room for inference - he seems to be afraid that readers will be confused if he doesn't paint words on the characters' foreheads.
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Old October 28 2011, 05:56 AM   #1757
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He also seems to be stuck in the 80's with his dialogue at times...the issue was a lot better than the first and I enjoyed it but I'm going to really enjoy when Jurgens and Griffin come aboard.
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Old October 28 2011, 05:59 AM   #1758
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Yeah, I'm particularly frustrated with this title because of the contrast with Action, which is awesome right now.
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Old October 28 2011, 06:00 AM   #1759
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Shallow, for sure. But saying she was a "complete caricature of an air-headed gossip columist - even more over-the-top than she was in the first season of Lois & Clark" is something that simply wasn't there.
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Old October 28 2011, 06:03 AM   #1760
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He also seems to be stuck in the 80's with his dialogue at times...the issue was a lot better than the first and I enjoyed it but I'm going to really enjoy when Jurgens and Griffin come aboard.
Hopefully Jurgens influence on the book is kept to a minimum
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Old October 28 2011, 06:07 AM   #1761
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^ I've been noticing this trend on various comic boards. What is with the Jurgens hate of late?
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Old October 28 2011, 06:13 AM   #1762
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I think it has to do with if Jurgens is on a book too long it goes to shit or something. That's just my take on it, I actually have no idea why fans have that stance on him. I have no problem with Jurgens work.
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Old October 28 2011, 06:21 AM   #1763
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Generally, I've always liked his work, particularly his Superman stuff.
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Old October 28 2011, 06:23 AM   #1764
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^Exactly the problem, most of the stuff was written decades ago. Since then he hasn't improved much in regards to writing much like Claremont/Byrne/Wolfman and the other writers from the 80s.

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Old October 28 2011, 06:28 AM   #1765
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I thought Booster Gold was pretty good...Vanishing Point was a mess.
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Old October 28 2011, 06:37 AM   #1766
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^Exactly the problem, most of the stuff was written decades ago. Since then he hasn't improved much in regards to writing much like Claremont/Byrne/Wolfman and the other writers from the 80s.
To me, Jurgens was a staple of the 90s/00s. In any event, are you saying that he was good then, but hasn't gotten better? Wouldn't that make him, at least, still good?
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Old October 28 2011, 06:42 AM   #1767
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Grant Morrison has never been anywhere near as good as he was from the mid-80's through JLA and yet people still love him.

I am liking ACTION so far though.
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Old October 28 2011, 06:47 AM   #1768
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Grant Morrison's Batman is awesome. Perhaps too esoteric and ambitious at times for people to get into but I've had tremendous fun with him writing the Bat. Morrison seems to be a very dividing figure in the fandom. People either love him or hate him. I will most likely always be a fan of his. He has yet to disappoint me.
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Old October 28 2011, 07:00 AM   #1769
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Morrison is probably the best comic book writer working for either DC or Marvel.
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Old October 28 2011, 07:23 AM   #1770
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Jonathon Hickman is right up there. He is the Marvel version of Morrison.
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