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Old September 9 2011, 09:57 PM   #61
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Re: Could a Lost Era set between 2161 and 2265 work?

^ I believe the Iloja of Prim as well as the Tobin reference is from the Deep Space Nine episode "Destiny". Here is the Memory Alpha entry on him.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Iloja_of_Prim
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Old September 9 2011, 10:44 PM   #62
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Re: Could a Lost Era set between 2161 and 2265 work?

Cardassian first contact is established as occurring in the 2320s in Titan: Taking Wing.

And it's entirely possible that the Federation could have been importing Cardassian products through intermediaries without having established formal contact with the Union. Europeans were wearing Chinese silk long before they had emissaries in Beijing.
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Old September 9 2011, 11:05 PM   #63
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Re: Could a Lost Era set between 2161 and 2265 work?

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Yeah, I would love to see them incorporate some of the abandoned ideas for Season 5 of ENT.
I'd really like to see what Shran would have done upon joining the crew of NX-01 (which is another one of those ideas). What position would he fill? My guess is that he'd lead the MACOs, because he's a qualified ground soldier as well as starship commander. And there apparently were no MACO officers on the ship other than Hayes - which is odd, as I would have thought that Hayes, being a Major, would have had a Lieutenant serving as his second in command, but whatever - so Shran would be the perfect choice to lead them.
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Old September 9 2011, 11:05 PM   #64
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Re: Could a Lost Era set between 2161 and 2265 work?

Ask a Trekkie when first contact with the Borg, the Ferengi or even the Vulcans were and you'll get a few different responses for each one.

Personally, I think the 2320's for Cardassian first contact is a missed oppertunity to tell stories of them tangling with Kirk and co.
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Old September 10 2011, 12:09 AM   #65
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And it's entirely possible that the Federation could have been importing Cardassian products through intermediaries without having established formal contact with the Union. Europeans were wearing Chinese silk long before they had emissaries in Beijing.
Excellent point. I hadn't thought of that.


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Personally, I think the 2320's for Cardassian first contact is a missed oppertunity to tell stories of them tangling with Kirk and co.
Well, they did "tangle" with Spock and McCoy in Wildstorm's Enter the Wolves graphic novel. But I think it's best to leave the Cardassians in the 24th century instead of homogenizing Trek too much.
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Old September 10 2011, 01:08 AM   #66
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Re: Could a Lost Era set between 2161 and 2265 work?

2320s works fine for first cotact with the Cardassians.

And Uhura didn't say Cardassian in Trek XI. She said Kardashian.

I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I do know how terrible that joke is.
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Old September 10 2011, 01:28 AM   #67
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Re: Could a Lost Era set between 2161 and 2265 work?

^ You're not alone...

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Old September 10 2011, 01:43 AM   #68
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Well, that was painful to watch. Although, the guy with a Chakotay tattoo at the end was rather amusing. "Akoochi-moya bitches."

I'm sure I spelled that wrong.
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Old September 10 2011, 02:30 AM   #69
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Do we know when the Federation made first contact with the Betazoids? It must have been sometime pre-TOS if McCoy knew Emony(?) when he was in Medical School.
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Old September 10 2011, 02:36 AM   #70
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Re: Could a Lost Era set between 2161 and 2265 work?

^ Emony was a Trill (Dax's third host), not a Betazoid.
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Old September 10 2011, 03:12 AM   #71
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Re: Could a Lost Era set between 2161 and 2265 work?

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And Uhura didn't say Cardassian in Trek XI. She said Kardashian.
If anything, then, the drink should've been a Moonrise.
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Old September 10 2011, 03:25 AM   #72
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^ And Uhura would have to say "Bottoms up!" before drinking it.
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Old September 10 2011, 04:09 AM   #73
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Do we know when the Federation made first contact with the Betazoids?
No. The abandoned opening sequence from The Undiscovered Country would've had Kirk warning Chekov against playing chess (poker?) against a Betazoid, which would've pegged it before 2293 (and that scene is included in The Fearful Summons), but canonically there's no evidence locking it down.

As for Trek Lit evidence, the earliest appearance of a Betazoid interacting with the Federation seems to be 2316 according to Well of Souls -- the year when Rachel Garrett met her Betazoid future husband. So it must've been before then.
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Old September 10 2011, 07:21 AM   #74
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there's a Betazoid among the Federation ship crew in an episode of Battlecruiser Vengeance in GKN: Enemy Territory; which series dates from the 23rd century.

the Betazoid is one of a number of alien crew on the vessel, with all black eyes, a mistake the viewer acknowledges along with the depiction of a Trill with an all-spotty face, a more pig-like Tellarite and others.
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Old September 10 2011, 04:34 PM   #75
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Do we know when the Federation made first contact with the Betazoids? It must have been sometime pre-TOS if McCoy knew Emony(?) when he was in Medical School.
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^ Emony was a Trill (Dax's third host), not a Betazoid.
Sorry about that, I apparently combined two questions into one there. I meant to ask about the Trill and Betazoids.
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