Re-booting TNG For TV? - Page 6

Bry_Sinclair · September 5 2011, 09:33 PM

I tend to ignore what happened in the Enterprise finale. Holodecks were known to malfunction, I mean they made the 30-something Will Riker look like he was in his 50s!

Trip was perhaps the best thing about Enterprise (the fact he was very easy on the eyes also helped), with the relationship between him and T'Pol (and I don't just mean the sex, the luck b****) being perhaps the best of the series. Had it not been for the two of them, I doubt I would have continued to watch it.

Jeff O'Connor · September 5 2011, 10:03 PM

T'Girl wrote:

Look at it this way, Enterprise's first season premiered when I was fourteen, all the geeks in my school could identify with Trip, he seemed somehow like he was in his mid-late teens, he was cool, laid back, played the harmonica and he was Mr. Popular aboard the ship.

I was the same age and I can back your statement up on that front. Similar thing happened at my school.

Admiral Buzzkill · September 5 2011, 11:44 PM

Trip was probably my favorite character on Enterprise. T'Pol would be second.

As much as I liked Bakula, I often thought the show might have been a little more energetic if Trineer had been cast as the captain.

Jeff O'Connor · September 6 2011, 12:19 AM

Late grandmother once said something to that end. 2002 or so. So, first or second season.

"I like Scott Bakula. I just wish he'd go back to leaping. Now Trip, he's the reason I watch this show."

Bry_Sinclair · September 6 2011, 07:08 AM

My gods! That would have been a good show (I always found Bakula to be a huge let down as Captain, IMHO), with Mr Trinneer getting his shirt off more often!

But who to cast as the new Charles "Trip" Tucker III...? Hmm...

ColeMercury · September 6 2011, 08:56 AM

Bry_Sinclair wrote:

ColeMercury wrote:

In other words, Nog without the delinquency?

Or Jake (a far more likable character). Just a normal teenager who happens to live in space and then gets a taster of life onboard the Flagship and wants to be a part of it.

That's Nog. Jake never wanted to be a part of Starfleet. Nog was the one who looked up to the Starfleet officers and aspired to be like them.

Bry_Sinclair wrote:

ColeMercury wrote:

It is possible to keep Wesley a prodigy without making him save the ship all the time.

They don't seem able to manage it. We had to suffer him for three and a half seasons, then had to suffer Seven being rammed down our throats in Voyager for four seasons. One person always saving the day gets very tired, very quickly (IMHO), and is one that that always makes me switch off.

Doesn't mean it's impossible. Only means the writers were lazy.

TheDolphin · September 19 2011, 12:45 AM

I'd love to see a brand-new post-VOY series, which combines characters from TNG, DS9 and VOY (basically any of the leads that would do it), whether it's about the USS Titan or another ship, as long as there are recognizable faces.

V.

Dukhat · September 19 2011, 01:44 AM

TheDolphin wrote:

I'd love to see a brand-new post-VOY series, which combines characters from TNG, DS9 and VOY (basically any of the leads that would do it), whether it's about the USS Titan or another ship, as long as there are recognizable faces.

The chances of that happening are slim to none.

Trekker82 · September 21 2011, 01:45 PM

While I would love to have another Star Trek series on TV, a reboot-antyhing-would not be allowed, if I were in charge. Why not continue on after Voyager? For example, after Romulus was destroyed, the series could be based on the fallout of the Empire and how the quadrant(s) are affected.

Temis the Vorta · September 21 2011, 07:16 PM

Why not continue on after Voyager?

Because that series was a failure in the ratings. The successful Star Trek is what JJ Abrams is doing now. Hollywood likes success a whole lot and doesn't like failure at all.

Trekker82 · September 22 2011, 12:34 AM

Temis the Vorta wrote:

Why not continue on after Voyager?

Because that series was a failure in the ratings. The successful Star Trek is what JJ Abrams is doing now. Hollywood likes success a whole lot and doesn't like failure at all.

I dissagree with that, I think a lot of people felt that Abram's Trek was a massive failure that is only loosely built on Star Trek with disregard for any respect for Star Trek.

I understand that Hollywood caters to the nearly non-existent attention span of the younger generation who craves explosions, sex and poor character development.

September 22 2011, 01:18 AM

Temis the Vorta wrote:

Why not continue on after Voyager?

Because that series was a failure in the ratings. The successful Star Trek is what JJ Abrams is doing now. Hollywood likes success a whole lot and doesn't like failure at all.

So do a JJ on TNG for TV!

Captaindemotion · September 22 2011, 02:07 PM

Trekker82 wrote:

Temis the Vorta wrote:

Why not continue on after Voyager?

Because that series was a failure in the ratings. The successful Star Trek is what JJ Abrams is doing now. Hollywood likes success a whole lot and doesn't like failure at all.

I dissagree with that, I think a lot of people felt that Abram's Trek was a massive failure that is only loosely built on Star Trek with disregard for any respect for Star Trek.

I understand that Hollywood caters to the nearly non-existent attention span of the younger generation who craves explosions, sex and poor character development.

Regardless of what one may feel about the artistic merits of the movie, it was a financial success. And that's all that counts in Hollywood.

Dukhat · September 22 2011, 03:49 PM

Trekker82 wrote:

I disagree with that, I think a lot of people felt that Abram's Trek was a massive failure that is only loosely built on Star Trek with disregard for any respect for Star Trek.

I understand that Hollywood caters to the nearly non-existent attention span of the younger generation who craves explosions, sex and poor character development.

And I disagree with everything you've written. I loved the new movie and thought JJ was very faithful and respectful to TOS. I am 38 years old and clearly not the "younger generation" demographic that "craves explosions, sex and poor character development." And I will add that I am just as much of a Star Trek fanatic as anyone else on this board.

OverJoyJackson · September 22 2011, 04:20 PM

I think doing any TREK TV series now would be a very risky idea. A friend of mine told me that if you were to watch every episode and movie of TREK made already, it would take you, 24 hours a day, nearly six weeks to see it all. That is just way too much TREK. I think "normal" people stopped watching because it got boring and they were retelling the same stories over and over and over.

Star Trek XI, whether you liked it or not, was a big hit. TREK has finally grown beyond TV and should exist only at the theaters. I'm not even sure if a TREK tv show would be a ratings winner, if it went up against THE X FACTOR or idiotic reality stuff. Do we really want to see TREK get beat up in the ratings by THE BIGGEST LOSER? What an irony that would be.

Having said that? The only way a TREK series would work, IMO, is on SHOWTIME or HBO. Something like DEXTER or THE WALKING DEAD that went no more than 12 episodes a year and was tightly written. This would eliminate the fluffy idiotic episodes all TREK series produced an over abudance of (how much of the 6 week viewing time would actually be "good" TV?)

September 5 2011, 09:33 PM	#76
Bry_Sinclair Commodore Location: Along the border of Talarian space	Re: Re-booting TNG For TV? I tend to ignore what happened in the Enterprise finale. Holodecks were known to malfunction, I mean they made the 30-something Will Riker look like he was in his 50s! Trip was perhaps the best thing about Enterprise (the fact he was very easy on the eyes also helped), with the relationship between him and T'Pol (and I don't just mean the sex, the luck b***) being perhaps the best of the series. Had it not been for the two of them, I doubt I would have continued to watch it. __________________ Avatar: Captain Hilgrat Ja-Inrosh (deceased), Commanding Officer, U.S.S. Silverfin* NCC-4470, Border Service Third Cutter Squadron Manip by: FltCpt. Bossco (STPMA)

September 5 2011, 11:44 PM	#78
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: Re-booting TNG For TV? Trip was probably my favorite character on Enterprise. T'Pol would be second. As much as I liked Bakula, I often thought the show might have been a little more energetic if Trineer had been cast as the captain. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

September 6 2011, 12:19 AM	#79
Jeff O'Connor Commodore Location: Tampa, FL	Re: Re-booting TNG For TV? Late grandmother once said something to that end. 2002 or so. So, first or second season. "I like Scott Bakula. I just wish he'd go back to leaping. Now Trip, he's the reason I watch this show." __________________ Star Trek 1966-

September 6 2011, 07:08 AM	#80
Bry_Sinclair Commodore Location: Along the border of Talarian space	Re: Re-booting TNG For TV? My gods! That would have been a good show (I always found Bakula to be a huge let down as Captain, IMHO), with Mr Trinneer getting his shirt off more often! But who to cast as the new Charles "Trip" Tucker III...? Hmm... __________________ Avatar: Captain Hilgrat Ja-Inrosh (deceased), Commanding Officer, U.S.S. Silverfin NCC-4470, Border Service Third Cutter Squadron Manip by: FltCpt. Bossco (STPMA)

September 19 2011, 12:45 AM	#82
TheDolphin Ensign	Re: Re-booting TNG For TV? I'd love to see a brand-new post-VOY series, which combines characters from TNG, DS9 and VOY (basically any of the leads that would do it), whether it's about the USS Titan or another ship, as long as there are recognizable faces. V.

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September 21 2011, 01:45 PM	#84
Trekker82 Lieutenant Location: Maine, USA	Re: Re-booting TNG For TV? While I would love to have another Star Trek series on TV, a reboot-antyhing-would not be allowed, if I were in charge. Why not continue on after Voyager? For example, after Romulus was destroyed, the series could be based on the fallout of the Empire and how the quadrant(s) are affected.

September 22 2011, 04:20 PM	#90
OverJoyJackson Lieutenant Junior Grade Location: Altanta Georgia, avoiding zombies daily	Re: Re-booting TNG For TV? I think doing any TREK TV series now would be a very risky idea. A friend of mine told me that if you were to watch every episode and movie of TREK made already, it would take you, 24 hours a day, nearly six weeks to see it all. That is just way too much TREK. I think "normal" people stopped watching because it got boring and they were retelling the same stories over and over and over. Star Trek XI, whether you liked it or not, was a big hit. TREK has finally grown beyond TV and should exist only at the theaters. I'm not even sure if a TREK tv show would be a ratings winner, if it went up against THE X FACTOR or idiotic reality stuff. Do we really want to see TREK get beat up in the ratings by THE BIGGEST LOSER? What an irony that would be. Having said that? The only way a TREK series would work, IMO, is on SHOWTIME or HBO. Something like DEXTER or THE WALKING DEAD that went no more than 12 episodes a year and was tightly written. This would eliminate the fluffy idiotic episodes all TREK series produced an over abudance of (how much of the 6 week viewing time would actually be "good" TV?)