The best episode of Voyager - Final Part

BlueStuff · August 4 2011, 12:54 PM

Something a little different for the final round. To proceed as normal, it would be over very quickly indeed, so here we have the winners and runner ups of each season:

Season One: State of Flux
Wild Card: Eye of the Needle
Season Two: Projections
Wild Card: Meld
Season Three: Before and After
Wild Card: Worst Case Scenario
Season Four: Prey
Wild Card: The Gift
Season Five: Counterpoint
Wild Card: Relativity
Season Six: Pathfinder
Wild Card: Life Line
Season Seven: Homestead
Wild Card: Repentance

*RULES*

Give what you consider to be the worst/your least favorite episode ONE point, and briefly explain WHY. Be sure to copy and paste the list with your point added. When an episode reaches 3 points, it is eliminated. Then a NEW round begins (in this thread) with the numbers restored to 0. Vote ONCE per round.

State of Flux - 0
Eye of the Needle - 0
Projections - 0
Meld - 0
Before and After - 0
Worst Case Scenario - 0
Prey - 0
The Gift - 0
Counterpoint - 0
Relativity - 0
Pathfinder - 0
Life Line - 0
Homestead - 0
Repentance - 0

KNH · August 4 2011, 03:23 PM

I'll do the honors then, and give the first point to The Gift. By virtue of marking her departure it's the best Kes episode, but it's still a Kes episode.

State of Flux - 0
Eye of the Needle - 0
Projections - 0
Meld - 0
Before and After - 0
Worst Case Scenario - 0
Prey - 0
The Gift - 1
Counterpoint - 0
Relativity - 0
Pathfinder - 0
Life Line - 0
Homestead - 0
Repentance - 0

TrekAlliance92 · August 4 2011, 03:47 PM

State of Flux - 0
Eye of the Needle - 0
Projections - 0
Meld - 0
Before and After - 0
Worst Case Scenario - 0
Prey - 0
The Gift - 1
Counterpoint - 0
Relativity - 0
Pathfinder - 0
Life Line - 0
Homestead - 1
Repentance - 0

Voting for Homestead in this round. I never cared much for this episode, and I thought it was odd for Neelix to leave the ship. And, Talaxians that far out--really?

AuntKate · August 4 2011, 03:50 PM

I think those Talaxians would be toast as soon as Voyager left. Out goes "Homestead."

State of Flux - 0
Eye of the Needle - 0
Projections - 0
Meld - 0
Before and After - 0
Worst Case Scenario - 0
Prey - 0
The Gift - 1
Counterpoint - 0
Relativity - 0
Pathfinder - 0
Life Line - 0
Homestead - 2
Repentance - 0

BlueStuff · August 4 2011, 05:26 PM

I concur, and am sending "Homestead" home. Granted, Voyager Season 7 wasn't great, but I still don't think Homestead deserved to win.

State of Flux - 0
Eye of the Needle - 0
Projections - 0
Meld - 0
Before and After - 0
Worst Case Scenario - 0
Prey - 0
The Gift - 0
Counterpoint - 0
Relativity - 0
Pathfinder - 0
Life Line - 0
Repentance - 0

Admiral Shran · August 4 2011, 05:55 PM

Repentance - Could the anti-death penalty message have been any more heavy-handed? Nevermind that they completely ignore one vital issue at hand - he was legally sane when he committed the crime. Feeling guilty about it afterwards means nothing.

State of Flux - 0
Eye of the Needle - 0
Projections - 0
Meld - 0
Before and After - 0
Worst Case Scenario - 0
Prey - 0
The Gift - 0
Counterpoint - 0
Relativity - 0
Pathfinder - 0
Life Line - 0
Repentance - 1

Seven of Five · August 4 2011, 10:51 PM

I'll also vote Repentance - somewhat good but not subtle. Certainly wish it hadn't got through as it doesn't hold up to the other good episodes here.

State of Flux - 0
Eye of the Needle - 0
Projections - 0
Meld - 0
Before and After - 0
Worst Case Scenario - 0
Prey - 0
The Gift - 0
Counterpoint - 0
Relativity - 0
Pathfinder - 0
Life Line - 0
Repentance - 2

Geck · August 5 2011, 01:06 AM

The Gift is an adequate farewell to Kes, but no more than adequate.

State of Flux - 0
Eye of the Needle - 0
Projections - 0
Meld - 0
Before and After - 0
Worst Case Scenario - 0
Prey - 0
The Gift - 1
Counterpoint - 0
Relativity - 0
Pathfinder - 0
Life Line - 0
Repentance - 2

Gary7 · August 5 2011, 06:11 AM

I'll also chime in with a vote against Repentance. The death penalty argument is tired and didn't need to be brought up again. Plus, Voyager has no business in the judicial affairs of these aliens. They don't know them and have no frame of reference to place judgement. Total PD issue with meddling, and we've had too many of those kinds of episodes. Plucked out like a mote in the eye.

State of Flux - 0
Eye of the Needle - 0
Projections - 0
Meld - 0
Before and After - 0
Worst Case Scenario - 0
Prey - 0
The Gift - 0
Counterpoint - 0
Relativity - 0
Pathfinder - 0
Life Line - 0

Admiral Shran · August 5 2011, 10:06 AM

State of Flux - 0
Eye of the Needle - 1
Projections - 0
Meld - 0
Before and After - 0
Worst Case Scenario - 0
Prey - 0
The Gift - 0
Counterpoint - 0
Relativity - 0
Pathfinder - 0
Life Line - 0

Eye of the Needle - did anybody really think they would get home in only the SIXTH episode?!

Seven of Five · August 5 2011, 02:39 PM

State of Flux - 0
Eye of the Needle - 1
Projections - 0
Meld - 0
Before and After - 0
Worst Case Scenario - 1
Prey - 0
The Gift - 0
Counterpoint - 0
Relativity - 0
Pathfinder - 0
Life Line - 0

Worst Case Scenario - it's a good episode but it's just more holodeck hijinks by the end, even if we do get to see Seska again.

KNH · August 6 2011, 01:04 AM

State of Flux - 0
Eye of the Needle - 2
Projections - 0
Meld - 0
Before and After - 0
Worst Case Scenario - 1
Prey - 0
The Gift - 0
Counterpoint - 0
Relativity - 0
Pathfinder - 0
Life Line - 0

Seconding Eye of the Needle - agreeing with Admiral Shran, and a follow-up, no matter how little, would've been nice.

Tiberius · August 6 2011, 01:16 AM

I'm putting a mark against projections. Weakest episode in the list, in my opinion, and I don't like the "It was just a dream" thing they did.

State of Flux - 0
Eye of the Needle - 2
Projections - 1
Meld - 0
Before and After - 0
Worst Case Scenario - 1
Prey - 0
The Gift - 0
Counterpoint - 0
Relativity - 0
Pathfinder - 0
Life Line - 0

Geck · August 6 2011, 01:48 AM

State of Flux - 0
Eye of the Needle - 2
Projections - 1
Meld - 0
Before and After - 0
Worst Case Scenario - 1
Prey - 0
The Gift - 1
Counterpoint - 0
Relativity - 0
Pathfinder - 0
Life Line - 0

The Gift again.

Supernuke · August 6 2011, 03:13 AM

State of Flux - 0
Projections - 0
Meld - 0
Before and After - 0
Worst Case Scenario - 0
Prey - 0
The Gift - 0
Counterpoint - 0
Relativity - 0
Pathfinder - 0
Life Line - 0

Voted out Eye of the Needle. The worst episode on this list IMO.

August 4 2011, 12:54 PM	#1
BlueStuff Rear Admiral Location: East Sussex, UK.	The best episode of Voyager - Final Part Something a little different for the final round. To proceed as normal, it would be over very quickly indeed, so here we have the winners and runner ups of each season: Season One: State of Flux Wild Card: Eye of the Needle Season Two: Projections Wild Card: Meld Season Three: Before and After Wild Card: Worst Case Scenario Season Four: Prey Wild Card: The Gift Season Five: Counterpoint Wild Card: Relativity Season Six: Pathfinder Wild Card: Life Line Season Seven: Homestead Wild Card: Repentance RULES Give what you consider to be the worst/your least favorite episode ONE point, and briefly explain WHY. Be sure to copy and paste the list with your point added. When an episode reaches 3 points, it is eliminated. Then a NEW round begins (in this thread) with the numbers restored to 0. Vote ONCE per round. State of Flux - 0 Eye of the Needle - 0 Projections - 0 Meld - 0 Before and After - 0 Worst Case Scenario - 0 Prey - 0 The Gift - 0 Counterpoint - 0 Relativity - 0 Pathfinder - 0 Life Line - 0 Homestead - 0 Repentance - 0

August 4 2011, 03:23 PM	#2
KNH Commander Location: KNH	Re: The best episode of Voyager - Final Part I'll do the honors then, and give the first point to The Gift. By virtue of marking her departure it's the best Kes episode, but it's still a Kes episode. State of Flux - 0 Eye of the Needle - 0 Projections - 0 Meld - 0 Before and After - 0 Worst Case Scenario - 0 Prey - 0 The Gift - 1 Counterpoint - 0 Relativity - 0 Pathfinder - 0 Life Line - 0 Homestead - 0 Repentance - 0 __________________ 100. If my ship is whisked to the far side of the galaxy, leaving us with a seventy-year journey home, and a super-being offers to take us home instantly in exchange for having his baby, I'll agree and ask what we can get for two babies.

August 4 2011, 03:47 PM	#3
TrekAlliance92 Captain	Re: The best episode of Voyager - Final Part State of Flux - 0 Eye of the Needle - 0 Projections - 0 Meld - 0 Before and After - 0 Worst Case Scenario - 0 Prey - 0 The Gift - 1 Counterpoint - 0 Relativity - 0 Pathfinder - 0 Life Line - 0 Homestead - 1 Repentance - 0 Voting for Homestead in this round. I never cared much for this episode, and I thought it was odd for Neelix to leave the ship. And, Talaxians that far out--really?

August 4 2011, 03:50 PM	#4
AuntKate Commodore Location: USA--smack dab in the middle	Re: The best episode of Voyager - Final Part I think those Talaxians would be toast as soon as Voyager left. Out goes "Homestead." State of Flux - 0 Eye of the Needle - 0 Projections - 0 Meld - 0 Before and After - 0 Worst Case Scenario - 0 Prey - 0 The Gift - 1 Counterpoint - 0 Relativity - 0 Pathfinder - 0 Life Line - 0 Homestead - 2 Repentance - 0 __________________ "There's got to be a way to have our cake and eat it, too." CPT Janeway

August 4 2011, 05:26 PM	#5
BlueStuff Rear Admiral Location: East Sussex, UK.	Re: The best episode of Voyager - Final Part I concur, and am sending "Homestead" home. Granted, Voyager Season 7 wasn't great, but I still don't think Homestead deserved to win. State of Flux - 0 Eye of the Needle - 0 Projections - 0 Meld - 0 Before and After - 0 Worst Case Scenario - 0 Prey - 0 The Gift - 0 Counterpoint - 0 Relativity - 0 Pathfinder - 0 Life Line - 0 Repentance - 0

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August 4 2011, 05:55 PM	#6
Admiral Shran Admiral Location: In the Before Time - the Long, Long Ago	Re: The best episode of Voyager - Final Part Repentance - Could the anti-death penalty message have been any more heavy-handed? Nevermind that they completely ignore one vital issue at hand - he was legally sane when he committed the crime. Feeling guilty about it afterwards means nothing. State of Flux - 0 Eye of the Needle - 0 Projections - 0 Meld - 0 Before and After - 0 Worst Case Scenario - 0 Prey - 0 The Gift - 0 Counterpoint - 0 Relativity - 0 Pathfinder - 0 Life Line - 0 Repentance - 1 __________________ Vote Obomney 2012! "All governments suffer a recurring problem: power attracts pathological personalities. It's not that power corrupts but that it's magnetic to the corruptible." - Frank Herbert, Dune

August 4 2011, 10:51 PM	#7
Seven of Five Commodore Location: Staffordshire, United Kingdom	Re: The best episode of Voyager - Final Part I'll also vote Repentance - somewhat good but not subtle. Certainly wish it hadn't got through as it doesn't hold up to the other good episodes here. State of Flux - 0 Eye of the Needle - 0 Projections - 0 Meld - 0 Before and After - 0 Worst Case Scenario - 0 Prey - 0 The Gift - 0 Counterpoint - 0 Relativity - 0 Pathfinder - 0 Life Line - 0 Repentance - 2 __________________ I love how coffee makes me feel. It's like my heart is trying to hug my brain!

August 5 2011, 01:06 AM	#8
Geck Rear Admiral Location: Sydney, Australia	Re: The best episode of Voyager - Final Part The Gift is an adequate farewell to Kes, but no more than adequate. State of Flux - 0 Eye of the Needle - 0 Projections - 0 Meld - 0 Before and After - 0 Worst Case Scenario - 0 Prey - 0 The Gift - 1 Counterpoint - 0 Relativity - 0 Pathfinder - 0 Life Line - 0 Repentance - 2

August 5 2011, 06:11 AM	#9
Gary7 Rear Admiral Location: Near Manhattan ··· in an alternate reality	Re: The best episode of Voyager - Final Part I'll also chime in with a vote against Repentance. The death penalty argument is tired and didn't need to be brought up again. Plus, Voyager has no business in the judicial affairs of these aliens. They don't know them and have no frame of reference to place judgement. Total PD issue with meddling, and we've had too many of those kinds of episodes. Plucked out like a mote in the eye. State of Flux - 0 Eye of the Needle - 0 Projections - 0 Meld - 0 Before and After - 0 Worst Case Scenario - 0 Prey - 0 The Gift - 0 Counterpoint - 0 Relativity - 0 Pathfinder - 0 Life Line - 0 __________________ Remembering Ensign Mallory.

August 5 2011, 10:06 AM	#10
Admiral Shran Admiral Location: In the Before Time - the Long, Long Ago	Re: The best episode of Voyager - Final Part State of Flux - 0 Eye of the Needle - 1 Projections - 0 Meld - 0 Before and After - 0 Worst Case Scenario - 0 Prey - 0 The Gift - 0 Counterpoint - 0 Relativity - 0 Pathfinder - 0 Life Line - 0 Eye of the Needle - did anybody really think they would get home in only the SIXTH episode?! __________________ Vote Obomney 2012! "All governments suffer a recurring problem: power attracts pathological personalities. It's not that power corrupts but that it's magnetic to the corruptible." - Frank Herbert, Dune

August 5 2011, 02:39 PM	#11
Seven of Five Commodore Location: Staffordshire, United Kingdom	Re: The best episode of Voyager - Final Part State of Flux - 0 Eye of the Needle - 1 Projections - 0 Meld - 0 Before and After - 0 Worst Case Scenario - 1 Prey - 0 The Gift - 0 Counterpoint - 0 Relativity - 0 Pathfinder - 0 Life Line - 0 Worst Case Scenario - it's a good episode but it's just more holodeck hijinks by the end, even if we do get to see Seska again. __________________ I love how coffee makes me feel. It's like my heart is trying to hug my brain!

August 6 2011, 01:04 AM	#12
KNH Commander Location: KNH	Re: The best episode of Voyager - Final Part State of Flux - 0 Eye of the Needle - 2 Projections - 0 Meld - 0 Before and After - 0 Worst Case Scenario - 1 Prey - 0 The Gift - 0 Counterpoint - 0 Relativity - 0 Pathfinder - 0 Life Line - 0 Seconding Eye of the Needle - agreeing with Admiral Shran, and a follow-up, no matter how little, would've been nice. __________________ 100. If my ship is whisked to the far side of the galaxy, leaving us with a seventy-year journey home, and a super-being offers to take us home instantly in exchange for having his baby, I'll agree and ask what we can get for two babies.

August 6 2011, 01:16 AM	#13
Tiberius Commodore	Re: The best episode of Voyager - Final Part I'm putting a mark against projections. Weakest episode in the list, in my opinion, and I don't like the "It was just a dream" thing they did. State of Flux - 0 Eye of the Needle - 2 Projections - 1 Meld - 0 Before and After - 0 Worst Case Scenario - 1 Prey - 0 The Gift - 0 Counterpoint - 0 Relativity - 0 Pathfinder - 0 Life Line - 0 __________________ The Best of Both Worlds eBook \| Every episode of Trek in viewing order Tiberius

August 6 2011, 01:48 AM	#14
Geck Rear Admiral Location: Sydney, Australia	Re: The best episode of Voyager - Final Part State of Flux - 0 Eye of the Needle - 2 Projections - 1 Meld - 0 Before and After - 0 Worst Case Scenario - 1 Prey - 0 The Gift - 1 Counterpoint - 0 Relativity - 0 Pathfinder - 0 Life Line - 0 The Gift again.

August 6 2011, 03:13 AM	#15
Supernuke Commander Location: USA	Re: The best episode of Voyager - Final Part State of Flux - 0 Projections - 0 Meld - 0 Before and After - 0 Worst Case Scenario - 0 Prey - 0 The Gift - 0 Counterpoint - 0 Relativity - 0 Pathfinder - 0 Life Line - 0 Voted out Eye of the Needle. The worst episode on this list IMO. __________________ Nuria: "Perhaps one day, my people will travel above the skies..." Picard: "Of that, I have absolutely no doubt."