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Old August 8 2011, 01:33 PM   #16
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Re: That Spacedock "shuttle" is actually a Tug

Some JJPrise aesthetics there... I'd love to see more of these craft, and they'd fit right in if the decision was made to apply them to the new movies.

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Old August 8 2011, 04:13 PM   #17
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Re: That Spacedock "shuttle" is actually a Tug

Well hell- I didn't know either... I love a good Trek surprise after all these years!
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Old August 12 2011, 05:39 AM   #18
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Does anyone know if any capabilities have been assigned to one of these crafts?

Can a single one of these little ships tow a starship the size of Kirk's Enterprise? If so, at what velocity?
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Old August 12 2011, 06:08 AM   #19
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^^^Dunno, but I could ask Bill. I suspect they can move big ships in small velocity sort of ways, much like the maneuvering thrusters.
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Old August 12 2011, 07:19 AM   #20
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They don't appear to be the world's most practical SAR choppers - no evidence of a recovery hatch or even sufficient internal space for holding rescuees. Yet one of these (and exactly one) is sent to meet our heroes after they crash their Klingon BoP.

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a.../tvhhd2132.jpg

Does this perhaps mean a single tug could recover a starship of BoP size against one-gee pull? Tractor beams do appear to be rather non-Newtonian in other contexts: perhaps there's no strain placed on the tug's lifting engines, say, and the only limiting factor is the amount of power pumped into the tractor beam?

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Old August 12 2011, 08:46 AM   #21
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^^^Be fair. We saw ONE tug heading in, but it could have just been the first to arrive.
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Old August 12 2011, 12:15 PM   #22
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Fair enough.

It's a bit funny that the first response to crashes on this supposedly heavily traveled area is one of 'em tugboats, though. Would there have been more proper SAR gear available on most days, and the global storm prevented those from maintaining readiness?

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Old August 16 2011, 12:02 AM   #23
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Well, if Trek has a lot of field manip, perhaps these can be civilian versions of weapons pods. Instead of a starship beaming power to fighters to boost their ability, perhaps this little tug had power beamed to it from spacedock, allowing it to pull larger objects than it could by itself when out of spacedocks tractor range, it could still receive power via subspace--but that might be too noisy for comm...
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Old August 18 2011, 12:37 AM   #24
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Fair enough.

It's a bit funny that the first response to crashes on this supposedly heavily traveled area is one of 'em tugboats, though. Would there have been more proper SAR gear available on most days, and the global storm prevented those from maintaining readiness?

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The Probe's effects were neutralizing everything. That little tug was probably the first thing they could power up and shoot out there, since we saw they were parked on the tarmac in Marin.
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Old August 18 2011, 01:18 AM   #25
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Ship in the water, sinking. Let's keep it from sinking. How about we put a tractor beam on it? Sounds like a plan to me.
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Old August 19 2011, 08:44 AM   #26
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Ask Bill George about the mystery "ship" with oberth-like qualities that´s "hanging" to one of the main central walls in spacedock!
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Old August 19 2011, 09:18 AM   #27
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Thanks, DS9Sega.

It's always nice to see that thought went into things.

It was pretty obvious what the role of the craft was at the end, when it leads the crew to the Enterprise-A, if one thinks in terms of today's harbors.
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Old August 19 2011, 11:13 AM   #28
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Could have been a pilot boat, too, though. Apparently, Starfleet has no need for pilots any more, not in that sense of the word. (Except perhaps for Tom Paris in "Caretaker"...)

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Old August 19 2011, 11:57 PM   #29
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I do recall Bill told me that he neglected to get detail photos of the Merchantman in its original configuration, which makes it a problem to recreate it exactly. Oh well.

I'll ask him these other questions next time I see him. I'll also ask him if I can document his "tug" model.

Course, the model that I loved seeing most at his place is the 6-foot Space: 1999 Eagle he built. It's HUGE!
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Ask Bill George about the mystery "ship" with oberth-like qualities that´s "hanging" to one of the main central walls in spacedock!

What ship was that?

Pics anyone..? (Pretty Please!)
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