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View Poll Results: Rate Cast No Shadow.
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Old August 17 2011, 04:03 AM   #76
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Oh, I know. I can buy the Tal Shi'ar knowing about them. It's someone as junior as Vaughn was in this book that surprised me, though.
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Old August 17 2011, 09:49 AM   #77
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I did name a ship after the esteemed Mr. Ford – the Chon’m (say it slowly – Chon’m = John M... Geddit?!?)
Oh, hence the explanation that it was the name of a noted warrior-poet.
Exactly... I still regard Ford's The Final Reflection as the definitive Klingon novel, and certainly one of the best pieces of Star Trek fiction I have ever read.

I was surprised that this version of Valeris's backstory was inconsistent with Steven H. Wilson's Saavik/Valeris story "A Question of Loyalty" in DC's Star Trek Special #2, because I'd gotten the impression from earlier comments that it would be acknowledged.
I don't consider it to be inconsistent; I think the connection is less literal, more open to reader interpretation. My original intent was to make a more direct, overt link between the two stories in the text, but in the writing I didn't find a place where it felt correct to do so. But to me, that connection is still there, but "under the hood", so to speak. I certainly feel like Wilson's writing of the character informed me to some degree while I was writing Valeris.

It's interesting that the Vulcans have a colony on Sigma Draconis V
That's a deliberate nod to something from the FASA Star Trek RPG lore.
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Old August 17 2011, 01:25 PM   #78
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^Well, yeah, consistency of characterization, but there are some clear factual inconsistencies -- although that's because Wilson's story has a couple of inconsistencies with TUC. "A Question of Loyalty" has Valeris meeting Kirk while she's still a cadet, but Cast No Shadow shows her just after graduation and says she's never met Kirk (which is more consistent with TUC, where Kirk didn't know who she was at first). AQoL also establishes that Spock is meeting Valeris for the first time during her training voyage on the Enterprise, which contradicts TUC's assertion that Spock was her Academy sponsor (an inconsistency I never noticed until I reviewed the story last night).
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Old August 17 2011, 04:06 PM   #79
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I found Cast No Shadow to be quite good. Really enjoyable. I liked the way we saw more into the conspiracy. Valaris' backstory was quite believable.

I do have a couple of questions about a couple of possible errors.

Should once be one?

Is there an extra and there?
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Old August 17 2011, 07:24 PM   #80
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As I am a well-known nut for inter-book continuity, I was particulary jazzed, not only for the novel-verse connections, but for the Shatner-verse references as well. Although, it might make my next update for the "Charting" thread a little more complicated. Perhaps another addendum for the Shatner-verse rather than a brief mention in "Misc." Although, it is far easier to incorporate The Ashes of Eden into the novel-verse than it would be for the rest of the 24th century adventures.
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Old August 17 2011, 08:08 PM   #81
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Did I miss something? Was there as Section 31 operative active in the story?
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Old August 17 2011, 08:38 PM   #82
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There's a Section 31 operative in every story. You just don't know it.
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Old August 17 2011, 08:46 PM   #83
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So they're like The Observers in Fringe?
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Old August 17 2011, 10:09 PM   #84
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Did I miss something? Was there as Section 31 operative active in the story?
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Old August 18 2011, 11:12 AM   #85
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As I am a well-known nut for inter-book continuity, I was particulary jazzed, not only for the novel-verse connections, but for the Shatner-verse references as well.
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Although, it is far easier to incorporate The Ashes of Eden into the novel-verse than it would be for the rest of the 24th century adventures.
Quite so. As Ashes of Eden has some firm continuity connections with The Undiscovered Country that also underpinned elements of Cast No Shadow, I felt it worked to mention it.
The Ashes of Eden kinda has one foot in the mainstream Trek Lit continuity and one in the "Shatnerverse" tales...
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Old August 18 2011, 06:48 PM   #86
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Hmm. I'm now about 2/3 of the way into the last novella of Declassified, and so I'm already a bit hazy (I caught myself getting references in The Stars Look Down mixed up with references in Cast No Shadow), but as I recall, we never did find out


Which is probably just as well.

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Old August 18 2011, 07:33 PM   #87
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Old August 18 2011, 11:45 PM   #88
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Did I miss something? Was there as Section 31 operative active in the story?
You really wanna know?
Yes I forgot when I posted that comment.
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Old October 21 2011, 06:36 AM   #89
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Re: Star Trek: Cast No Shadow Review Thread

Just wrote my review for Cast No Shadow. Not too much new there, kind of echoing a lot of what others said! Link in my sig!
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Old October 22 2011, 07:59 PM   #90
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I just got done with this book and overall I thought it was good. The beginning of the story really hooked me in. I think there should be more novels involving intelligence work in the Star Trek Universe.
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