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Old July 16 2011, 02:10 PM   #1
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Haven Season 2: Discussion, Spoilers, Etc.

SyFy's Haven has returned for its second season, premiering last night.

I enjoy this show a fair amount. Interesting characters, weird happenings, and so forth.

The episode last night picked up right where we left off: the Chief is dead (or is he?), the mystery of the tattoos deepens, and now we have two Audreys (or is it an Audrey and a Lucy? Or is it....???). The lines between the Troubled and the Faithful are clearer and set up for more direct conflict. The Rev is one creepy dude.

I hope they don't get too convoluted as some shows seem to be doing lately (to their ultimate detriment). Haven is not exactly Shakespeare, but it's no Harper's Island either.



Summer SyFy (man that's lame) is finally here. Added to Eureka and Warehouse 13, it's not a bad one at all.

Discuss and Enjoy!

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Old July 16 2011, 05:23 PM   #2
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Re: Haven Season 2: Discussion, Spoilers, Etc.

I liked the bit with the kid playing with the paper boat. reminded me of IT. great start love this show. what are they planing with the second audry?
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Old July 16 2011, 06:09 PM   #3
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Re: Haven Season 2: Discussion, Spoilers, Etc.

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I liked the bit with the kid playing with the paper boat. reminded me of IT. great start love this show. what are they planing with the second audry?
Well that's the thing: it may not be a second Audrey. If our Audrey is really Lucy, then is the "second" Audrey is really the first Audrey. Or is she? Got that so far?



I don't know where they are going. Is our Audrey really the ghost of Lucy? Some kind of reincarnation?

I just pray they have a plan, and that the plan is not stupid.
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Old July 16 2011, 07:15 PM   #4
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^^^ And don't forget -- there are two Howards, too. If "our" Audrey is really Lucy (and the "new" Audrey is the real Audrey and presumably her boss is the real Howard), then who is "our" Howard, really?
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Old July 16 2011, 10:17 PM   #5
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Re: Haven Season 2: Discussion, Spoilers, Etc.

I watched a couple of episodes when this show first started and gave up on it. However, I watched the season finale and this episode to consider giving it a second chance.

I'm curious, do they explain why the populace don't go running away from Haven or do they just consider it slightly weirder than normal New England happenings?
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Old July 16 2011, 11:35 PM   #6
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^^^ And don't forget -- there are two Howards, too. If "our" Audrey is really Lucy (and the "new" Audrey is the real Audrey and presumably her boss is the real Howard), then who is "our" Howard, really?
We've seen him act independently from her, so I'm pretty sure he's not a delusion. Is he some kind of supernatural handler?

And what is his angle? Is he "good" or "bad"? We've seen that he is much more aware of what's going on than he lets her know.


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I watched a couple of episodes when this show first started and gave up on it. However, I watched the season finale and this episode to consider giving it a second chance.

I'm curious, do they explain why the populace don't go running away from Haven or do they just consider it slightly weirder than normal New England happenings?
Not explicitly, but it seems there are two camps in the town, neither one willing to give up. It became more clear I think in the premiere that there are The Troubled and The Faithful. And there's going to be a battle between the two.

I don't know how many people, if any, are in the middle...??
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Old July 17 2011, 12:00 AM   #7
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^^ I can see that now that you mention it. So you have like the Rev and his followers who will stick it out for faith. And you have people like the police chief's son and Eric Balfour's characters (sorry names escape me) who are looking for something. Makes a little sense I guess.
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Old July 17 2011, 12:12 AM   #8
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wait so if that guy reads Lord of the Rings will a hobbit fall on his head?
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Old July 17 2011, 12:13 AM   #9
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^^ I can see that now that you mention it. So you have like the Rev and his followers who will stick it out for faith. And you have people like the police chief's son and Eric Balfour's characters (sorry names escape me) who are looking for something. Makes a little sense I guess.
I think it's more like these troubled people want to be left in peace, but the religious folks see them as evil and needing to be cast out.

It seems like, for the most part, the phenomena only occur when the troubled are attacked or frightened. Some don't seem to have control (which is where Audrey/Lucy comes in).

Also, you have to read the newspapers in the introduction. This all seems to have something to do with witch burning.


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wait so if that guy reads Lord of the Rings will a hobbit fall on his head?
I don't know about that, but if I were that guy, I'd start reading hardcore porn immediately.
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I liked the bit with the kid playing with the paper boat. reminded me of IT.
My partner, who has read Stephen King, recognised it immediately & got tense as the kid reached in.
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Old July 17 2011, 04:02 AM   #11
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I watched a couple of episodes when this show first started and gave up on it. However, I watched the season finale and this episode to consider giving it a second chance.

I'm curious, do they explain why the populace don't go running away from Haven or do they just consider it slightly weirder than normal New England happenings?
This is Stephen King's New England. The region is crawling with weird towns.
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Old July 17 2011, 06:56 AM   #12
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^^ That's what I was getting at.
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Old July 17 2011, 07:05 AM   #13
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I thought it was good. The whole two Audreys put me in a strange place. I'm not too sure how they will get along.

I think the best part was the smuggler and the cop burying the Chief in an unmarked grave. Underneath it all there is a mutual respect between the two and it's that type of unspoken honor that is... rather swell if you think about it.
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I liked the bit with the kid playing with the paper boat. reminded me of IT.
My partner, who has read Stephen King, recognised it immediately & got tense as the kid reached in.

I haven't seen any of the eps but have seen the commericals for it and I remember seeing a clown that looks a lot like pennywise, any connection? I loved IT the book and TV movie
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Old July 17 2011, 09:41 AM   #15
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Re: Haven Season 2: Discussion, Spoilers, Etc.

^^ It looks like the clown will be on next week.

The premiere was good. Hopefully, this year there will be a little more urgency to the arc. My main problem in the first year was that Audrey was a little too lackadaisical in following up on something that meant so much to her. The characters, the actors, the setting, the stories are otherwise all good.

It looks like Audrey II will be an ongoing character (and I really hope she gets the chance to say, "Sho looks like plant food to me"). The fact that she has her own Howard really complicates the mystery. And last year, our Howard was conspiring with the sheriff, so if our Audrey is the fake, he could have been part of that.

I think Duke's wife will be a good addition to the storyline as well. And I liked the burial scene-- the relationship between Nathan and Duke is great to watch.
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