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Old July 16 2011, 10:39 PM   #31
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Yep, that's the plan. That will be under 'The Complete Lit-verse Reading List.'
Just out of curiosity, are you going to break things up like VotI did or just list them based on the main parts of the books?
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Old July 16 2011, 10:52 PM   #32
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Yep, that's the plan. That will be under 'The Complete Lit-verse Reading List.'
Could you perhaps share just the list you've compiled ?

Would it help if I said "Pretty please"?
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Old July 16 2011, 10:59 PM   #33
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Unlike VotI, I decided to just list the books as a whole, instead of break them up into a bunch of pieces, creating a (IMO) nearly incomprehensible tangle of entries. There's something to be said for both methods, but in the end it was more fun for me to start from scratch with the easier method than copy and then add to a pre-existing framework.

I've not combined all the lists together yet and I'm still working on the individual ones. So I don't have anything in a form that I'd like to post yet. Right now I'm going over all the comics and adding what's relevant. I look forward to when I have something more to share.
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Old July 16 2011, 11:00 PM   #34
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Unlike VotI, I decided to just list the books as a whole, instead of break them up into a bunch of pieces, creating a (IMO) nearly incomprehensible tangle of entries. There's something to be said for both methods, but in the end it was more fun for me to start from scratch with the easier method than copy and then add to a pre-existing framework.

I've not combined all the lists together yet and I'm still working on the individual ones. So I don't have anything in a form that I'd like to post yet. Right now I'm going over all the comics and adding what's relevant. I look forward to when I have something more to share.
When you do your lists, can we get lists without comics and just books as well as both and then comics separate?
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Old July 16 2011, 11:56 PM   #35
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Any chance we could get a look at your new site?
Still a work in progrress but I've tried to pick up the pace. There will be a list for each series. Each entry will have notes when you hovor over it. The list is color coated as to importance to the overall storyline. This is just a glimpse of one of the smallest pages and there will be other features so don't think it's just simple and easy like this one page.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...screenshot.png

Really looking forward to sharing this with everyone and being able to supply it to the newcomers with questions that pop up so often.
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Unlike VotI, I decided to just list the books as a whole, instead of break them up into a bunch of pieces, creating a (IMO) nearly incomprehensible tangle of entries. There's something to be said for both methods, but in the end it was more fun for me to start from scratch with the easier method than copy and then add to a pre-existing framework.

I've not combined all the lists together yet and I'm still working on the individual ones. So I don't have anything in a form that I'd like to post yet. Right now I'm going over all the comics and adding what's relevant. I look forward to when I have something more to share.
When you do your lists, can we get lists without comics and just books as well as both and then comics separate?
Eventually I could probably do that.
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Old July 17 2011, 09:16 PM   #37
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So I've been developing this list of important or good (subjective, I know) Trek literature (books and comics, with references to the different TV series) by coming up with 32 different historical/series eras to put Trek literature into. It's based primarily on the Memory Beta Chronology.

It's still a rough draft, so there are quite a few mistakes, and I know it doesn't exactly fit the bill of what you were asking, but you did want something comprehensive! Hope this helps.


1. General
2. Myriad Universes

1968-2364
3. Earth’s Dark Era
4. Enterprise TV
5. Enterprise Books
6. Early Federation
7. Christopher Pike
8. Early Kirk
9. Vanguard
10. Star Trek Later Season One
11. Star Trek, Later Seasons
12. The Animated Series
13. Admiral Kirk
14. Kirk’s 2nd 5-Year Mission
15. The Original Films
16. Excelsior
17. Stargazer
18. Cardassian Occupation

2nd Half of the 24th Century (2364- )
19. Early TNG
20. Later TNG TV
21. Early DS9
22. Post-Series TNG
23. The Dominion War
24. Voyager
25. New Frontier
26. DS9 Relaunch
27. Mirror Universe
28. S.C.E.
29. A Time To…
30. Titan
31. Destiny
32. Voyager Relaunch

General
1. Strange New Worlds, 1-10
2. The Amazing Stories
3. The Captain’s Table
4. Tales from the Captain’s Table
5. Seven Deadly Sins
6. The Brave and the Bold
7. The Badlands
8. Day of Honor
9. Invasion!
10. Gateways
11. Star Trek: Special
12. The Modula Imperative
13. The Best of Gary Seven

Myriad Universes
14. Infinity’s Prism
15. Echoes and Refractions
16. Shattered Light
17. The Last Generation
18. Strangers in the Sky
19. Federation
20. Odyssey
21. Mirror Universe Trilogy
22. The Mirror Universe Saga

Earth’s Dark Era (1974-1996)
23. Assignment: Earth
24. The Rise and Fall of Khan Noonien Singh, Vol. 1-2

Enterprise TV (2151-2155)
25. Enterprise, Seasons 1-4
26. What Price Honor?
27. Daedalus
28. Daedalus’s Children
29. Last Full Measure
30. Rosetta

Enterprise Books (2155-2161)
31. The Good that Men Do
32. Kobayashi Maru
33. The Romulan War: Beneath the Raptor’s Wing
34. The Romulan War: To Brave the Storm
35. Starfleet: Year One

Early Federation

Christopher Pike (2228-2264)
36. Burning Dreams (2228-2267)
37. Crew
38. The Final Reflection
39. Final Frontier
40. Best Destiny
41. Collision Course
42. Vulcan’s Glory
43. The Early Voyages
44. Where Sea Meets Sky
45. Inception

Early Kirk (2264-2266)
46. Star Trek, Season One (2266-2267)
47. Constellations
48. The New Voyages
49. The New Voyages II
50. Mere Anarchy
51. Star Trek: The Original Series Omnibus
52. Romulans: Pawns of War
52. Enterprise: The First Adventure
53. My Brother’s Keeper: Republic
54. My Brother’s Keeper: Constitution
55. My Brother’s Keeper: Enterprise
56. The Janus Gate: Present Tense
57. The Janus Gate: Future Imperfect
58. The Janus Gate: Past Prologue
59. Errand of Vengeance: The Edge of the Sword
60. Errand of Vengeance: Killing Blow
61. Errand of Vengeance: River of Blood

Vanguard (2265-2267)
62. Vanguard: Distant Early Warning
63. Vanguard: Harbinger
64. Vanguard: Summon the Thunder
65. Vanguard: Reap the Whirlwind
66. Vanguard: Open Secrets
67. Vanguard: Precipice
68. Vanguard: Declassified
69. Vanguard: What Judgment Comes

Later ST Season One (2267)
70. Heart of the Sun
71. Web of the Romulans
72. Errand of Fury: Seeds of Rage
73. Errand of Fury: Demands of Honor
74. Errand of Fury: Sacrifices of War
75. Crucible: Provenance of Shadows
76. Crucible: The Fire and the Rose
77. Crucible: The Star to Every Wandering
78. Ishmael
79. The Disinherited
80. Invasion!: First Strike
81. The Case of the Colonist’s Corpse
82. The Galactic Whirlpool
83. Mission to Horatius
84. Twilight’s End
85. The Vulcan Academy Murders
86. The IDIC Epidemic

Star Trek, Later Seasons (2268-2269)
87. Star Trek, Season Two (2267-2268)
88. Star Trek, Season Three (2268-2269)
89. To Reign in Hell
90. Treaty’s Law
91. The Rings of Tautee
92. Uhura’s Song
93. Double, Double
94. How Much for Just the Planet?
95. Legacy
96. Section 31: Cloak
97. First Frontier
98. Mudd in Your Eye
99. Sanctuary

The Animated Series (2269-2270)
100. The Animated Series, Season 1-2
101. Faces of Fire
102. Assignment: Eternity
103. Planet of Judgment
104. World Without End
105. Perry’s Planet
106. The Three-Minute Universe
107. Renegade
108. The Great Starship Race
109. All of Me
110. The Patrian Transgression
111. Memory Prime
112. Prime Directive
113. The Tears of the Singers
114. Pawns and Symbols
115. The Price of the Phoenix
116. The Fate of the Phoenix
117. The Abode of Life
118. Chain of Attack
119. The Final Nexus
120. The Entropy Effect
121. Yesterday’s Son
122. Dreadnought!
123. Battlestations!
124. Troublesome Minds
125. Mission’s End

Admiral Kirk (2270-2272)
125. The Lost Years
126. Traitor Winds
127. A Flag Full of Stars
128. Recovery
129. Leonard McCoy, Frontier Doctor

Kirk’s 2nd 5-Year Mission (2273-2280)
1. Star Trek I
2. Untold Voyages
3. Ex Machina
4. The Kobayashi Maru
5. Home is the Hunter
6. Firestorm
7. Death Count
8. The Wounded Sky
9. Rihannsu: My Enemy, My Ally
10. Doctor’s Orders
11. Spock’s World
12. The Better Man
13. The Covenant of the Crown
14. Rihannsu: The Romulan Way
15. Rihannsu: Swordhunt
16. Rihannsu: Honor Blade
17. Rihannsu: The Empty Chair
18. Rules of Engagement
19. New Earth: Wagon Train to the Stars
20. New Earth: Belle Terre
21. New Earth: Rough Trails
22. New Earth: The Flaming Arrow
23. New Earth: Thin Air
24. New Earth: Challenger
25. Gateways: Chainmail

The Original Films (2281-2288)
26. The Pandora Principle
27. Dwellers in the Crucible
28. Time for Yesterday
29. Star Trek II-V
30. Unspoken Truth
31. In the Name of Honor
32. Probe
33. The Rift
34. The Best of Captain Kirk
35. The Best of Peter David

Excelsior (2289-2328)
36. Excelsior: Forged in Fire
37. Star Trek VI
38. Sarek
39. Mind Meld
40. Shadows on the Sun
41. The Last Roundup
42. The Captain’s Daughter
43. Vulcan’s Forge
44. The Sundered
45. Cast No Shadow
46. Serpents Among the Ruins
47. Terok Nor: Day of the Vipers

Stargazer (2327-2346)
48. Enter the Wolves
49. The Art of the Impossible
50. Stargazer: The Valiant
51. Stargazer: Gauntlet
52. Stargazer: Progenitor
53. Stargazer: Three
54. Stargazer: Oblivion
55. Stargazer: Enigma
56. Stargazer: Maker
57. Well of Souls
58. Vulcan’s Heart

Cardassian Occupation (2345-2367)
59. Terok Nor: Night of the Wolves
60. Deny Thy Father
61. The Buried Age
62. No Limits
63. Imzadi
64. Catalyst of Sorrows
65. Terok Nor: Dawn of the Eagles

Early TNG (2364-2368)
66. The Next Generation, Seasons 1-5
67. The Sky’s the Limit
68. The Best of Star Trek: TNG
69. Double Helix, 1-6
70. Survivors (2364)
71. Strike Zone (2365)
72. Metamorphosis (2365)
73. A Rock and a Hard Place (2366)
74. Gulliver’s Fugitives
75. Q-in-Law
76. Fortune’s Light
77. Contamination
78. Spartacus (2367)
79. Reunion (2367)
80. Perchance to Dream
81. The Star Lost
82. Vendetta (2367)
83. Chains of Command
84. The Forgotten War
85. The Last Stand (2368)
86. War Drums (2368)
87. Sins of Commission
88. The Romulan Prize (2368)
89. Intelligence Gathering
90. The Devil’s Heart

Later TNG TV (2369-2370)
91. The Next Generation, Seasons 6-7
92. The Best and the Brightest (2369-2372)
93. Here There Be Dragons (2369)
94. Guises of the Mind
95. The Death of Princes
96. The Best of the Borg (2369)
97. The Romulan Strategem
98. Foreign Foes
99. Requiem
100. Engines of Destiny (2370)
101. Blaze of Glory
102. Possession
103. Infiltrator
104. Into the Nebula
105. Q-Squared
106. Masks
107. Rogue Saucer

Early DS9 (2369-2373)
108. Deep Space Nine, Seasons 1-5
109. Prophecy and Change
110. The Never Ending Sacrifice
111. The Best of Deep Space Nine
112. The Siege
113. Klingon
114. The Landmark Crossover
115. Fallen Heroes
116. Antimatter
117. Devil in the Sky
118. Fool’s Gold
119. The Looking Glass War
120. Station Rage
121. The Long Night
122. Objective: Bajor
123. The 34th Rule
124. Legends of the Ferengi
125. Starfleet Academy, #1-19
126. Marvel DS9 #10-15

Post-Series TNG (2371-2373)
127. Ancient Blood (2371)
128. Crossover
129. Kahless
130. Do Comets Dream?
131. Perchance to Dream
132. Dujonian’s Hoard
133. Tooth and Claw
134. Generations
135. Ship of the Line (2372)
136. Slings and Arrows
137. Rogue
138. First Contact (2373)

The Dominion War (2373-2375)
139. Deep Space Nine, Seasons 6-7
140. Tales from the Dominion War
141. Behind Enemy Lines
142. Tunnel Through the Stars (2374)
143. Immortal Coil
144. Q-Continuum
145. The Gorn Crisis
146. Millennium, 1-3
147. Triangle: Imzadi II
148. The Battle of Betazed (2375)
149. Insurrection
150. Forgiveness

Voyager (2371-2377)
151. Voyager, Seasons 1-7
152. Distant Shores
153. Encounters with the Unknown
154. Mosaic
155. Pathways
156. The Escape (2371)
157. The Murdered Sun
158. The Black Shore (2373)
159. Echoes
160. Marooned
161. String Theory, 1-3 (2374)
162. Seven of Nine (2375)
163. Battle Lines
164. Shadow
165. Dark Matters, 1-3 (2376)
166. The Nanotech War (2377)

New Frontier (2373-2380)
167. New Frontier
168. Prometheans
169. Once Burned
170. Double Time
171. Double or Nothing
172. The Quiet Place
173. Dark Allies
174. Excalibur, 1-3
175. Cold Wars
176. Being Human
177. Gods Above
178. Stone and Anvil
179. After the Fall
180. Missing in Action
181. Turnaround
182. Treason
183. Blind Man’s Bluff

DS9 Relaunch (2375-2377)
184. The Left Hand of Destiny, 1-2
185. N-Vector
186. A Stitch in Time
187. The Lives of Dax (2376)
188. Avatar, 1-2
189. Section 31: Abyss
190. Gateways: Demons of Air and Darkness
191. Gateways: “Horn and Ivory”
192. Divided We Fall
193. Mission Gamma: Twilight
194. Mission Gamma: This Gray Spirit
195. Mission Gamma: Cathedral
196. Mission Gamma: Lesser Evil
197. Rising Son
198. Unity
199. Worlds of Deep Space Nine: Cardassia and Andor
200. Worlds of Deep Space Nine: Trill and Bajor
201. Worlds of Deep Space Nine: Feranginar and The Dominion
202. Warpath (2377)
203. Fearful Symmetry
204. The Soul Key
205. Reservoir Ferengi

Mirror Universe (2155-2181)
206. Mirror Images
207. The Sorrows of Empire
208. Glass Empires
209. Obsidian Alliances
210. Shards and Shadows
211. Rise Like Lions

S.C.E. (2376-2377)
212. Have Tech, Will Travel
213. Miracle Workers
214. Some Assembly Required
215. No Surrender
216. Foundations
217. Wildfire
218. Breakdowns
219. Aftermath
220. Grand Designs
221. Creative Couplings
222. Wounds
223. Out of the Cocoon
224. What’s Past
225. Turn the Page
226. Remembrance of Things Past

A Time To… (2375-2379)
227. I, Q
228. Gemworld
229. Diplomatic Implausibility (2376)
230. Maximum Warp, Book 1-2
231. A Good Day to Die
232. Honor Bound
233. Enemy Territory
234. A Burning House
235. The Genesis Wave, 1-3 (2376/2377)
236. The Genesis Force
237. Vulcan’s Soul, 1-3
238. A Time to be Born (2378)
239. A Time to Die
240. A Time to Sow
241. A Time to Harvest (2378/2379)
242. A Time to Love
243. A Time to Hate
244. A Time to Kill
245. A Time to Heal
246. A Time for War, A Time for Peace
247. Nemesis

Titan (2379-2380)
248. Death in Winter
249. Taking Wing
250. The Red King
251. Articles of the Federation
252. Orion’s Hounds
253. Resistance
254. Q & A
255. Before Dishonor
256. Sword of Damocles
257. Greater than the Sum

Destiny (2381-2382)
258. Destiny, 1-3
259. Over a Torrent Sea
260. Losing the Peace
261. A Singular Destiny
262. Rough Beasts of Empire
263. Watching the Clock
264. Synthesis
265. Zero Sum Game
266. Seize the Fire
267. Paths of Disharmony
268. The Struggle Within
269. Plagues of Night
270. Raise the Dawn

Voyager Relaunch (2378-2381)
271. Homecoming
272. The Farther Shore
273. Spirit Walk, 1-2
274. Full Circle
275. Unworthy
276. Children of the Storm
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Old July 19 2011, 07:51 PM   #38
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Actually, if you give me until this weekend, I can make a list that has absolutely everything. We're most of the way there already; I think it would sort of be fun to throw in there absolutely everything important. I've read almost all of it in the last two years; it'd be fun to get it all sorted out.
Thrawn, any chance you were able to compile your list? The other lists here have helped but I'm still looking for one that takes the Charting the Novel-verse books and puts them into chronological order. Odo's list is good but segments into different series. I'm trying to get a hold of the entire "novel-verse" and where they all fit (Vanguard, Starfleet Academy, TNG, DS9, Voyager, Titan, New Frontier, S.C.E., etc.).

I know it's not necessary to enjoy these books and I've already read many of them. I'm just a bit of a collector and would like to get a complete set to go on my bookshelf. I love the fact that I'll have all these stories that reference each other even if in a small, insignificant way. Then as I'm reading different novels that might mention something or someone from one of the other books I can run onto here. I can ask where this person or situation is from. Once I get the answer from many of you walking Treklopedias I can walk to my bookshelf and find the specific "referenced" book. That doesn't sound too anal does it... does it?!
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You can skip The Left Hand of Destiny


Why would someone want to skip The Left Hans of Destiny Duology, They were excellent books and happened within the relative time frame.
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"You can skip The Left Hand of Destiny"


Why would someone want to skip The Left Hand of Destiny Duology, They were excellent books and happened within the relative time frame.
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Actually, if you give me until this weekend, I can make a list that has absolutely everything. We're most of the way there already; I think it would sort of be fun to throw in there absolutely everything important. I've read almost all of it in the last two years; it'd be fun to get it all sorted out.
Thrawn, any chance you were able to compile your list? The other lists here have helped but I'm still looking for one that takes the Charting the Novel-verse books and puts them into chronological order. Odo's list is good but segments into different series. I'm trying to get a hold of the entire "novel-verse" and where they all fit (Vanguard, Starfleet Academy, TNG, DS9, Voyager, Titan, New Frontier, S.C.E., etc.).

I know it's not necessary to enjoy these books and I've already read many of them. I'm just a bit of a collector and would like to get a complete set to go on my bookshelf. I love the fact that I'll have all these stories that reference each other even if in a small, insignificant way. Then as I'm reading different novels that might mention something or someone from one of the other books I can run onto here. I can ask where this person or situation is from. Once I get the answer from many of you walking Treklopedias I can walk to my bookshelf and find the specific "referenced" book. That doesn't sound too anal does it... does it?!
Sure; with all the lists here I figured it was covered, but I'll put mine up tomorrow.

I'm glad you're still interested
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Old July 22 2011, 01:28 AM   #42
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Sure; with all the lists here I figured it was covered, but I'll put mine up tomorrow.

I'm glad you're still interested
Any chance you still might post that list....?
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Old July 22 2011, 05:39 AM   #43
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^ Sorry, I've been totally lame about that. Life, she is unpredictable, eh?

Either way, this is going to be a bit of an anti-climax, because Nasat pretty much nailed it. I haven't read most of what's in the Charting the Novel-Verse thread that Nasat didn't include. I do have a few additions, but they're pretty simple.

- Read the Invasion miniseries. Just by itself. Don't worry about chronology. It stands alone and it's super fun.

- Read "Last Full Measure" before "The Good That Men Do".

- If you like Pike, read "Burning Dreams" and "Vulcan's Glory" before Vanguard.

- DEFINITELY read "The Pandora Principle" before "Unspoken Truth".

- The early PAD books are pretty outstanding. Read these all before "The 34th Rule": TNG Strike Zone, A Rock & A Hard Place, Vendetta, Q In Law, Imzadi, Q Squared, Imzadi II, I,Q, and DS9 The Siege.

- Nasat missed some Mirror Universe stuff, I think. But the MU ties into itself a lot, and doesn't really have much to do with anything else until DS9: Warpath. So, what I would do is ignore all the MU stuff on Nasat's list, and then just read the whole thing right before you read DS9: Warpath. Replace the short novel version of The Sorrows Of Empire with the full-length reprint, and read the short stories from Shards & Shadows in chronological order with the novels & short novels from the other stuff. (This is easier to do when you have the books in front of you than it would be for me to list.) The MU stuff comes up in DS9: Warpath > Soul Key, and then in the NF comic Turnabout, which you should read after Missing In Action. The forthcoming "Rise Like Lions" can go anywhere after that, I bet.

That's pretty much it. If you want a more complete version than that, you'll have to get someone else to do it; I haven't read anything else that I think belongs.


EDIT: Oh wait sorry. Read TNG: Reunion, and then The Valiant, and then the six Stargazer books. Reunion takes place during TNG, but it actually introduces all of the characters in the first place (it was published first) and should be read that way. Read these before The Buried Age, even though Reunion takes place much later.

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Old July 22 2011, 03:59 PM   #44
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Re: Book reading timeline

Thanks Thrawn. I appreciate your help. However, I'm not really looking for a reading order but an "in-continuity" chronological order. One that is not broken up into different series but one large chronology by book and related comic titles.

Several of the lists here certainly help but does anyone have a comprehensive chronological list based mainly on the Charting the Novel-verse thread. I'm not really interested in material that doesn't relate somehow to the current continuity or directly contradicts it. I love how the Trek authors are integrating past characters and situations (such as Vendetta, Gemworld, etc.) into the current timeline. It enlarges this universe and makes it seem... well... "fuller", if you get my meaning.
It's one reason I'm less interested in the TOS stuff as the Abrams-verse and the old dictated reset button makes it less cohesive, or so it feels to me.

Again, any help is greatly appreciated and thank to all those that have responded.
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Old July 22 2011, 05:33 PM   #45
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Re: Book reading timeline

^ Fair enough, but why? Chronological order doesn't really make any sense for a lot of these books. If you're not going to read them in chronological order, why make the list?

And if that's all you want, it's already been made; the book Voyages of the Imagination has a timeline of everything that was published up until about 2005, and the books after that are pretty easy to slot in on your own.
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