New Zealand political leaders talk life, religion and euthanasia
[Prime Minister] John Key believes that his spirit will survive him and [opposition leader] Phil Goff believes there is "a force that is beyond mankind" - but neither of our rival leaders believes he is going to heaven.
"I don't believe in an afterlife," said Mr Goff, simply.
Mr Key was a bit more circuitous.
"I can't tell you what happens the moment you die but I don't believe you go to another form," he said.
"I do think you have a spirit that moves to the next - it's part of you and it lives on in your children. But I just don't believe you go off to dancing around in the clouds."
Asked about a proposed bill allowing same-sex couples to adopt children, he said: "I can understand a situation and might support a same-sex adoption. I'm more thinking of a scenario where you have a heterosexual couple who break up.
"The single most important thing you can do for your kid is love them."
Mr Goff, who was brought up a Catholic and has been married for 31 years, said he personally believed in marriage but he knew unmarried heterosexual and same-sex couples who had "brought up children and done a brilliant job".
On euthanasia, Mr Key said he voted for the first reading of a private member's bill to legalise it in 2003 and would vote for a bill to go to a select committee if it came up again.
Given over a third of the population is Athiest, in New Zealand, if you have a politician who believes in God and preaches it openly, he's usually the one to avoid.
"I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six."