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Old July 24 2011, 02:50 AM   #121
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Except for one episode in the revival series did it happen to any other team member?
Nope, that revival episode was the only time we saw a team member disavowed. There were episodes such as "The Exchange" (discussed earlier in the thread) where a team member was captured, but there was no disavowal; instead, the team worked to rescue them.
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Old July 24 2011, 05:10 AM   #122
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Mission: Impossible: Ghost Protocol is Brad Bird's first live-action feature film. I find that fascinating in itself. Naturally any trailer is going to play up the action to a disproportionate degree; that doesn't mean there won't be worthwhile story and characterization in the film. I can't imagine a Brad Bird film not having those. Basically I'm hoping for a live-action The Incredibles here.

And the plot seems intriguing:

I think it's a very clever twist and it suggests that the thinking behind this film is grounded in an awareness of the show's mythology.

As for the music, again, you can't mistake what the ad agency decides to put in the trailer for what the filmmakers choose to put in the actual movie. Michael Giacchino is back to score the film, and his score for M:I:III was the only one that really made good use of Schifrin's motifs from the series, both the main title motif and "The Plot."
Maybe, but don't know and don't care. The previous films turned me off the film franchise just as the Brosnan era turned me off Bond at the time. Maybe someday down the road M:I will be rebooted on film without Cruise and the current approach and I'll come back. Until then I'll just stick to the original series.
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Old July 24 2011, 02:06 PM   #123
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Well, like I said before, there is no single approach to the M:I films. Despite having the same name and the same lead actor, they have essentially nothing in common with one another, and no continuity among them besides the reuse of a couple of character names. They're not really a cohesive film series, they're three separate films reflecting the wildly different styles and sensibilities of their respective directors. So each one essentially is a reboot.

True, since Abrams is producing Ghost Protocol, and since it's being written by veterans of his Alias staff (though different ones this time, Josh Applebaum & Andre Nemec rather than Orci & Kurtzman), it should probably feel like a continuation of M:I:III, which would make it the first M:I movie to really have any creative, stylistic, or story continuity with its predecessor. But since M:I:III was the only one of the three highly disparate films to date that was actually worthwhile, I'm fine with that.
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Old July 24 2011, 02:40 PM   #124
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Abrams hasn't done one thing I've ever cared for. His name alone turns me off.
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Old July 24 2011, 05:49 PM   #125
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Well, to each his own. But, again, he's only producing this time; Brad Bird is directing. And the tradition of this film series is that each installment has been very much defined by its own director's voice. And Brad Bird has never yet directed a feature film that wasn't spectacularly good (although admittedly he's only directed three before this one, and never a live-action film). So my optimism remains.

And since this is a thread about the original series, not the movies, we should leave it at that.
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Old July 24 2011, 06:24 PM   #126
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I'm just hoping the new film doesn't have an IMF agent as a traitor. That's been part of the first three movies.
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Old August 24 2011, 03:44 PM   #127
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I've been working my way through Season 4 and I'm about mid way through it. It's okay, but something feels off. I don't feel it's as good as the first three seasons.

Seeing a young Nimoy so soon after Star Trek is also a little weird. I also have to say that while he's serviceable I don't find him as effective or as entertaining as Martin Landau.
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Old August 24 2011, 03:52 PM   #128
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I'm just hoping the new film doesn't have an IMF agent as a traitor. That's been part of the first three movies.
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Old August 24 2011, 05:51 PM   #129
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I've been working my way through Season 4 and I'm about mid way through it. It's okay, but something feels off. I don't feel it's as good as the first three seasons.

Seeing a young Nimoy so soon after Star Trek is also a little weird. I also have to say that while he's serviceable I don't find him as effective or as entertaining as Martin Landau.
It was oddly disturbing to me when he spoke his first line to Phelps, and addressed him as Jim. If you closed your eyes and heard it out of context, it could have been a line from a Trek episode.
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Old August 24 2011, 05:52 PM   #130
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I've been working my way through Season 4 and I'm about mid way through it. It's okay, but something feels off. I don't feel it's as good as the first three seasons.

Seeing a young Nimoy so soon after Star Trek is also a little weird. I also have to say that while he's serviceable I don't find him as effective or as entertaining as Martin Landau.
It was oddly disturbing to me when he spoke his first line to Phelps, and addressed him as Jim. If you closed your eyes and heard it out of context, it could have been a line from a Trek episode.
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Old January 29 2014, 09:35 PM   #131
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A big necro-bump rather than starting a new thread:

Having bought the big dynamite complete series boxset on pretty much a whim (I love 60's spy stuff, so the odds were good I'd like it).

Coming to the end of the second disc, I'm mostly enjoying it, the plots are sharp and fun, the directions good and there is very much the feeling things like everyone in the world speaking English in a silly accent is intentionally absurd rather than just a bit rubbish.

The only real problem at this point are the cast. I know this isn't a character driven show and have no problem with that, but for a series like this where you don't delve into their personalities in any depth the actors need bags of charisma to make up for it. Greg Morris and especially Martin Landau (who seems to be having an absolute blast, I don't know if it's because he's not a proper regular yet but he doesn't seem to be taking any of it remotely seriously and is much more fun for it) manage that, the others less so. There's the muscley one who hardly talks, the sultry woman (I'm genuinely surprised Bain won an Emmy for every year she was on the show, there's nothing you can point at as wrong with her performance but it really doesn't jump off the screen in the way Landau does) and...

Well, regardless of his behind the scenes problems Hill is just extremely stiff and wooden. Hopefully Graves will add that missing factor when he joins, Airplane certainly suggest he could potentially do that Adam West "Deadpan in the face of every ludicrous situation" thing down pat.

I was actually surprised how quickly the first episode to sideline Briggs came up, just the sixth in the set. He's there at the start and then vanishes completely in what seems to be a very last second decision as the "Special Guest Agent" doesn't have any unique skills of their own and just seems to be there for the parts of the script where Hill's lines couldn't just be given to Landau or Morris.

Otherwise though, a decent show. If the rest of the cast and Graves when he arrives can settle into being a bit more relaxed and fun it'll really kick off.
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Old January 29 2014, 09:47 PM   #132
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Initially show producer Brice Geller liked Steven Hill for what he thought was an appealing odd quality to him. But that didn't save the character as Hill simply became difficult to work with. Peter Graves makes an immediate onscreen difference from the get-go. He's just simply more persoanble and animated with genuine screen presence.
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Old January 29 2014, 10:09 PM   #133
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I always wondered if Hill was a dancer. There were times when he moved very gracefully. Odd observation, I guess, but it's something I noticed.
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Old January 29 2014, 10:40 PM   #134
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In later seasons, as spy stories became less popular due to espionage scandals and such, the focus of the show shifted almost exclusively to crime-fighting, with the Voice On Tape constantly explaining that the villains of the week were beyond the reach of "conventional law enforcement."
That was a sign (for me) that the show was on for too long, and should have ended with the 1969-1970 season. Either that, or give the IMF a recurring enemy similar to SPECTRE, HYDRA, or THRUSH to fight.

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Maybe, but don't know and don't care. The previous films turned me off the film franchise just as the Brosnan era turned me off Bond at the time. Maybe someday down the road M:I will be rebooted on film without Cruise and the current approach and I'll come back. Until then I'll just stick to the original series.
Rebooted just like the original TV show? Don't bet or count on
it. What would be the point? If you want to see that, then it would have to come back as a TV show again, and that won't ever happen, I think.

There is a show just like M:I, called Leverage that just recently concluded.

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In later seasons, as spy stories became less popular due to espionage scandals and such, the focus of the show shifted almost exclusively to crime-fighting, with the Voice On Tape constantly explaining that the villains of the week were beyond the reach of "conventional law enforcement."
That was a sign (for me) that the show was on for too long, and should have ended with the 1969-1970 season. Either that, or give the IMF a recurring enemy similar to SPECTRE, HYDRA, or THRUSH to fight.
As I said, though, the public had soured on spy stories by that point due to real-world scandals. I've just been watching The Six Million Dollar Man, and even though Steve Austin is nominally a government agent (and the second and third pilot movies are blatant Bond pastiches), I'm struck by how much the show downplays the spy angle. In the second season, fewer than half the episodes involve Steve on government missions, with the rest involving either scientific research projects, personal crises, or situations that Steve stumbles into while on vacation. (Seriously, there's a stretch where he takes three vacations in four episodes.)
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