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Old July 20 2011, 12:35 AM   #91
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Re: Mission: Impossible (original series)...

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Bah. Mission: Impossible only got great when Tom Cruise took the helm and actually made it watchable.
The M:I films were crap and I can't stand any of them. Films targeted for someone with severe ADD.
Some people thought slavery was cool too. No big deal.
You came in here just to take a shot at a series where obviously those posting here were fans of the show. That's trolling in my book. You shouldn't be surprised if someone takes offense at that, particularly the original poster. This thread is about the original series and those who liked it and why.
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Old July 20 2011, 03:36 AM   #92
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The one where Cinnamon was captured was one of the few that I actually remember from first run. I guess her pain, and calling out "Jim" by his real name, yet being together enough to hold back any more info, even impressed my 10-year-old self.
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Old July 20 2011, 03:42 AM   #93
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The M:I films were crap and I can't stand any of them. Films targeted for someone with severe ADD.
Some people thought slavery was cool too. No big deal.
You came in here just to take a shot at a series where obviously those posting here were fans of the show. That's trolling in my book. You shouldn't be surprised if someone takes offense at that, particularly the original poster. This thread is about the original series and those who liked it and why.
But... you're the original poster, referring to yourself in the third person. Why?

Granted, Garak probably could have been more diplomatic about it, but then so could you.

That said, he's just as entitled to express his love of the Tom Cruise Mission: Impossible films as you are to do so re: the original. Not seeing why it's such a big deal.
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Old July 20 2011, 04:06 AM   #94
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I think I made my point. The movies had been mentioned before with no fuss from anyone, but no one was taking shots at either the original series (which the thread is about) or the films.

I just thought the remark about the series was uncalled for. The series was the original template, the source materiel which some (including me) feel the films didn't respect. To say the series was essentially worthless until the Cruise films remade the idea was something I found offensive. It's really no different than someone saying Star Trek TOS was worthless until Abrams rebooted it with ST09. Something like that will tick someone off. In this case it was me.
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Old July 20 2011, 04:09 AM   #95
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Disagreeing about the series vs. the movies is one thing, but that comment the other poster made comparing people who liked the show to people who approved of slavery was beyond the pale.
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Old July 20 2011, 06:12 AM   #96
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Disagreeing about the series vs. the movies is one thing, but that comment the other poster made comparing people who liked the show to people who approved of slavery was beyond the pale.
Yeah, in all fairness, if I were going to be offended by anything said in this thread, it would be that.

But then, I liked the original TV series and the films, and I tend not to let what other people like detract from what I myself enjoy, so I'm probably not the person to go to on this.
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Old July 21 2011, 04:01 AM   #97
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I just watched "The Freeze," where they trick Donnelly Rhodes into thinking he's been cryogenically frozen and reawakened in the fabulous future world of 1980. The fake future included what looked uncannily like a modern flatscreen TV, complete with video cartridges. But the laugh-out-loud moment was when Dr. Rollin told Nurse Cinnamon to administer "5 ccs of cordrazine."
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Old July 21 2011, 04:13 AM   #98
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Re: Mission: Impossible (original series)...

The old show was a little too formulaic for me but my love of Peter Graves would get me through it if I had to watch. I loved the first Tom Cruise movie but the ones after left me shrugging.
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Old July 21 2011, 04:50 AM   #99
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I just watched "The Freeze," where they trick Donnelly Rhodes into thinking he's been cryogenically frozen and reawakened in the fabulous future world of 1980. The fake future included what looked uncannily like a modern flatscreen TV, complete with video cartridges. But the laugh-out-loud moment was when Dr. Rollin told Nurse Cinnamon to administer "5 ccs of cordrazine."
This is one of the few episodes that I have clearer memories of from all those years ago. The "futuristic" cars of 1980 kill me since they looked more like the '50's era of what folks thought future cars might look like.
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Old July 21 2011, 08:41 AM   #100
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Re: Mission: Impossible (original series)...

I liked the episode where they went to the foreign country with the badly spelled signs and tricked some guy using sets and masks.
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Old July 21 2011, 01:43 PM   #101
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I just watched "The Freeze," where they trick Donnelly Rhodes into thinking he's been cryogenically frozen and reawakened in the fabulous future world of 1980. The fake future included what looked uncannily like a modern flatscreen TV, complete with video cartridges. But the laugh-out-loud moment was when Dr. Rollin told Nurse Cinnamon to administer "5 ccs of cordrazine."
This is one of the few episodes that I have clearer memories of from all those years ago. The "futuristic" cars of 1980 kill me since they looked more like the '50's era of what folks thought future cars might look like.
I LOVED those cars!!! I'm so disappointed we ended up with SUVs instead!
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Old July 21 2011, 01:47 PM   #102
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I liked the episode where they went to the foreign country with the badly spelled signs and tricked some guy using sets and masks.
That WAS a good one!

yeah, that's another point - were any of those "Eastern European" signs actual words in any language? It seemed to me they'd just take English words and substitute Zs for Ss and throw some odd accent marks over some letters, so the audience could still read them.
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Old July 21 2011, 01:50 PM   #103
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yeah, that's another point - were any of those "Eastern European" signs actual words in any language? It seemed to me they'd just take English words and substitute Zs for Ss and throw some odd accent marks over some letters, so the audience could still read them.
Yes, exactly. It was called "Gellerese" after the show's creator/executive producer Bruce Geller. After all, they not only had to keep the signs legible for the audience, they had to avoid connecting these fictional countries with any real nationality.

However, when they did episodes set in Latin America or Francophone Africa, they did use real Spanish and French signage.
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Old July 21 2011, 05:58 PM   #104
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I did not know that!
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Old July 21 2011, 07:22 PM   #105
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And at the border crossing in "The Exchange," there's a sign that seems to be in genuine Russian, German, and French as well as English. I guess they could do that because there was English included so it was comprehensible, and because the multilingualism left it unspecific about what country they were in (though it was implicitly Germany -- they tended to use "Eastern Zone" and "Western Zone" in episodes that were supposed to be in East/West Germany).

The issue of languages is one of the tricky conceits of M:I. Do we choose to believe that these agents actually were fluent in every language on Earth, or that the inhabitants of every foreign country actually spoke in accented English? Although of course the problem here is nothing compared to that in science fiction shows.
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