Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILERS) - Page 22

Kegg · July 15 2011, 06:57 AM

Dream wrote:

The scene with arrival of the Autobots on Earth and Optimus Prime's first transformation scene in TF1 was incredible. It got claps the first time I watched it in theaters.

That scene did make me feel eight years old again and was easily the best moment of the film, though even this moment was a little marred by the random kid referentially calling it 'cooler than Armageddon'.

God Magnus · July 16 2011, 05:54 AM

Dream wrote:

The scene with arrival of the Autobots on Earth and Optimus Prime's first transformation scene in TF1 was incredible. It got claps the first time I watched it in theaters.

Now that I've seen the entire trilogy, I can truly say this is my absolute favorite scene in the entire series of films. The music, the effects, the camera angles - all of it was exactly what I expected and hoped for in a Transformers film. As a long time fan, I actually felt tears welling up the first time I saw this in the theater. It was like the kid in me was just so awed that he beamed out of me. It was a powerful moment.

Then not too long after, Bumblebee peed on Simmons...

inflatabledalek · July 16 2011, 07:52 AM

The Autobot arriving scene is indeed probably the best non action moment in all three films, genuine goosebumps and Peter Cullen's first line instantly shows that hiring him was more than just a sop to the fans.

Bumblebee lubricating Simmons never bothered me though, Movie Bee is basically insane so it seemed perfectly in character for him.

Warp Coil · July 16 2011, 07:00 PM

I would have to agree that the Autobots' arrival at Earth in the first film is the iconic moment from the entire trilogy. Everything about it just works perfectly. Steve Jablonsky's score is incredible here (I really like his music from all three films... I just wish the released soundtracks featured the complete scores).

Captain Craig · July 17 2011, 11:34 PM

Saw it for the third time last night and can anyone help me with how Soundwave is on Earth. That is the one thing I still haven't reconciled.
Even in it's third weekend there were people in the audience who at the moment Prime shows up in Chicago after bailing out Team Epps with Sam and says "We will kill them all", there was still a reaction from what I assume are first viewers. More muted but it was there.

captcalhoun · July 18 2011, 07:14 AM

i assume he's simply travelled to Earth in the interval between movies and assumed an Earthen alt-mode.

SPCTRE · July 18 2011, 08:40 AM

Flying Spaghetti Monster wrote:

ebert gave it a star.
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/...IEWS/110629981

As a movie, I agree with his review basically to the letter.

As a fan of loud, dumb action movies and robots kicking the living shit out of each other, I'd say I definitely got what I was in for. Managing expectations is key to the Michael Bay experience.

That said, it certainly was, by far, the dumbest of all the Transformer movies so far.

captcalhoun · July 18 2011, 04:01 PM

primus hates you. and ebert.

Samuel Walters · July 19 2011, 02:55 AM

Ebert inferior. Bay superior. [/G1 Soundwave]

Jono · July 19 2011, 05:53 AM

Just saw it. It was okay.

I found some of the story confusing in terms of the timeline. I thought Megatron was on Earth because he crashed chasing the AllSpark, but this movie made it out that the plan was always to move Cybertron to Earth as Sentinel was going to meet Megatron on Earth. It might make sense if I say a timeline ploted out but the entire thing from all 3 movies seems a bit of a mess.

Or why Megatron was brought back from the dead once (or was it twice, I really can't remember if he "died" in the 2nd movie), but they couldn't do the same for Sentinel? Anyway, the Decepticons aren't the smartest bunch. 200+ of them came out in DC and they didn't try to kill the President or blow up the Pentagon or why they even bothered setting up their main camp in the USA, the strongest power in the world and mostly likely to be able to foul up your plans. In fact why not do all of this on the moon? Why bring all that stuff to Earth in the first place?

The wing suit scene was cool, as long as you don't think about the logic behind it. It seemed like the most wasteful and unnecessary method possible to achieve their objective.

Prime ordering to "kill them all" and then executing Sentinel Prime sits uneasy with me. Prime has generally stood for everything that is good and just and it just seemed wrong for his character to say and do these things. Even the Decepticons at one point took prisoners until McDreamy decreed that it was execution time.

I did enjoy seeing Lester Speight, it brought back memories of those fantastic Terry Tates vids back in the early 2000s.

captcalhoun · July 19 2011, 07:24 AM

Prime has generally stood for everything that is good and just and it just seemed wrong for his character to say and do these things

you, who are without mercy, no beg for it? i thought you were made of sterner stuff, Megatron...

AS HE STANDS OVER HIS VANQUISHED ENEMY AND PREPARES TO EXECUTE HIM!

yeah, funny how everyone forgets that in the animated movie when they diss BayPrime...

BlobVanDam · July 19 2011, 07:56 AM

It doesn't bother me that Prime said to kill them all, as out of character as it may seem. By this point, the Decepticons had tricked everyone into sending the Autobots away, and instantly capitalized on it to level an entire city, and slaughtering people just for fun. Optimus Prime realized there was no compassion or mercy among the Decepticons, and to protect humanity, decided he needed to be relentless.

Of course that's not how it really played out in the movie. It just comes across as yet another out of character moment, such as yelling "GIVE ME YOUR FACE", or hunting down and killing Decepticons who were apparently just hiding. But if he had 3 movies of being in character, and they played it that way, it could have worked very effectively. It just didn't.

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July 16 2011, 07:52 AM	#318
inflatabledalek Captain	Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE The Autobot arriving scene is indeed probably the best non action moment in all three films, genuine goosebumps and Peter Cullen's first line instantly shows that hiring him was more than just a sop to the fans. Bumblebee lubricating Simmons never bothered me though, Movie Bee is basically insane so it seemed perfectly in character for him. __________________ TRANSFORMATION: CRAFTY [mind] BANKERS Meet the five new Autobots in my look at Rock and Roll Out! Part 1

July 16 2011, 07:00 PM	#319
Warp Coil Rear Admiral Location: MD, USA	Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE I would have to agree that the Autobots' arrival at Earth in the first film is the iconic moment from the entire trilogy. Everything about it just works perfectly. Steve Jablonsky's score is incredible here (I really like his music from all three films... I just wish the released soundtracks featured the complete scores). __________________ "I managed to find Uno and Checkers, and also parts of Battleship and most of the pieces of Candy Land, which I figure, I can mix together to create a fabulous new game, CandyShipBattleLand. War never tasted so good." - Lorelai Gilmore

July 17 2011, 11:34 PM	#320
Captain Craig Vice Admiral Location: Nashville,TN	Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE Saw it for the third time last night and can anyone help me with how Soundwave is on Earth. That is the one thing I still haven't reconciled. Even in it's third weekend there were people in the audience who at the moment Prime shows up in Chicago after bailing out Team Epps with Sam and says "We will kill them all", there was still a reaction from what I assume are first viewers. More muted but it was there. __________________ "Picard never hit me." Q-Less(DS9) "Freedom is the Right of All Sentient Beings" Optimus Prime Twitter:http://twitter.com/#!/CaptainCraig1

July 18 2011, 07:14 AM	#321
captcalhoun Admiral Location: gone	Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE i assume he's simply travelled to Earth in the interval between movies and assumed an Earthen alt-mode.

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July 18 2011, 04:01 PM	#323
captcalhoun Admiral Location: gone	Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE primus hates you. and ebert.

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July 19 2011, 05:53 AM	#325
Jono Rear Admiral Location: Australia	Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE Just saw it. It was okay. I found some of the story confusing in terms of the timeline. I thought Megatron was on Earth because he crashed chasing the AllSpark, but this movie made it out that the plan was always to move Cybertron to Earth as Sentinel was going to meet Megatron on Earth. It might make sense if I say a timeline ploted out but the entire thing from all 3 movies seems a bit of a mess. Or why Megatron was brought back from the dead once (or was it twice, I really can't remember if he "died" in the 2nd movie), but they couldn't do the same for Sentinel? Anyway, the Decepticons aren't the smartest bunch. 200+ of them came out in DC and they didn't try to kill the President or blow up the Pentagon or why they even bothered setting up their main camp in the USA, the strongest power in the world and mostly likely to be able to foul up your plans. In fact why not do all of this on the moon? Why bring all that stuff to Earth in the first place? The wing suit scene was cool, as long as you don't think about the logic behind it. It seemed like the most wasteful and unnecessary method possible to achieve their objective. Prime ordering to "kill them all" and then executing Sentinel Prime sits uneasy with me. Prime has generally stood for everything that is good and just and it just seemed wrong for his character to say and do these things. Even the Decepticons at one point took prisoners until McDreamy decreed that it was execution time. I did enjoy seeing Lester Speight, it brought back memories of those fantastic Terry Tates vids back in the early 2000s. __________________ Those who lose dreaming are lost.

July 19 2011, 07:56 AM	#327
BlobVanDam Fleet Captain Location: Australia	Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE It doesn't bother me that Prime said to kill them all, as out of character as it may seem. By this point, the Decepticons had tricked everyone into sending the Autobots away, and instantly capitalized on it to level an entire city, and slaughtering people just for fun. Optimus Prime realized there was no compassion or mercy among the Decepticons, and to protect humanity, decided he needed to be relentless. Of course that's not how it really played out in the movie. It just comes across as yet another out of character moment, such as yelling "GIVE ME YOUR FACE", or hunting down and killing Decepticons who were apparently just hiding. But if he had 3 movies of being in character, and they played it that way, it could have worked very effectively. It just didn't.