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Old Yesterday, 01:38 AM   #1
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Could a good Dune movie be made or not

I was thinking about some of the best scenes from Star Wars, and how they so closely mirror different parts of Dune. It made me wonder if there could be a good Dune movie if people didn't think it was ripping off Star Wars.
For the record, I like them both. I think the obvious difference is that Dune is unquestionably Science Fiction and not some sort of fantasy, and that both are better when they stay in their respective worlds...it's why the Bene Gesserit, prophecy, hyper-speed navigation, and foresight have an explanation while The Force, Hyperspace, and everything else do not need one.

The question is, can all of that actually make for a good movie? I personally don't care about its standing as a Franchise. The only Dune books I've read are the originals and I've heard that the rest are terrible. As books, they work perfectly, telling a complete story with lots of interesting characters and concepts. How can that be told in a movie? I think it would be kind of boring, but definitely hard to do.
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Old Yesterday, 01:51 AM   #2
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Re: Could a good Dune movie be made or not

Dune is more systematic and worked-out as a worldbuilding exercise than Star Wars but its basic premises (eugenics, psychedelic prophecy, far-future neo-feudalism, knife- and sword-fighting and "weirding" a.k.a. The Ultimate Kung Fu) are rather more in the fantasy than science realm.

Can you make a good movie out of it? Even just the first book is a sprawling story by movie standards and incredibly difficult to render at feature film length -- I watched Lynch's attempt this weekend and it's actually quite painful, much worse than I remember it. To do it justice and have it make any sense to the audience I think it's more realistic as a mini-series or a television show.
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Old Yesterday, 02:08 AM   #3
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Re: Could a good Dune movie be made or not

I agree that Dune really deserves a decent version. The mini-series from a few years back did a lot right, but still did not nail it. I would love for HBO to take on the series at about a book a season.
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Re: Could a good Dune movie be made or not

I'm sure it's at least possible.
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Old Yesterday, 02:11 AM   #5
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Re: Could a good Dune movie be made or not

BigJake wrote: View Post
Can you make a good movie out of it? Even just the first book is a sprawling story by movie standards and incredibly difficult to render at feature film length -- I watched Lynch's attempt this weekend and it's actually quite painful, much worse than I remember it. To do it justice and have it make any sense to the audience I think it's more realistic as a mini-series or a television show.
I imagine many people once thought LOTR was unfilmable.

It just takes the right filmmaker.

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Old Yesterday, 02:22 AM   #6
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Re: Could a good Dune movie be made or not

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It made me wonder if there could be a good Dune movie
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Old Yesterday, 03:08 AM   #7
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Re: Could a good Dune movie be made or not

I think it'd make a good trilogy.
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Old Yesterday, 03:14 AM   #8
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Re: Could a good Dune movie be made or not

I like the David Lynch movie. "Long live the fighters!"
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Old Yesterday, 03:27 AM   #9
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Re: Could a good Dune movie be made or not

I was forgetting that of course a whole massive series of films could theoretically be made now. Not confident in what the product would be given the difficulty of the material and the current mindset of the Hollywood blockbuster though.

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I like the David Lynch movie. "Long live the fighters!"
I had fond memories of it, but seeing it again... yikes.
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Old Yesterday, 03:41 AM   #10
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Re: Could a good Dune movie be made or not

I guess I'm lucky enough to have never seen the movie. The guy who played Paul at least looked the part, if maybe he was too old.
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Old Yesterday, 04:27 AM   #11
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Re: Could a good Dune movie be made or not

...with a James Cameron budget and a Peter Jackson vision?...absolutely...but wulfio is right, above...it would and should make a good triolgy...
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Old Yesterday, 04:35 AM   #12
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Re: Could a good Dune movie be made or not

They'll never be able to cast a real teen as Paul though, for child labor reasons and because they couldn't be seen having sex and stuff.
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Old Yesterday, 05:43 AM   #13
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Re: Could a good Dune movie be made or not

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I guess I'm lucky enough to have never seen the movie.
In the theater they gave out a cheat sheet. True story.
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Old Yesterday, 05:49 AM   #14
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^ For real? What did it say?
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Re: Could a good Dune movie be made or not

In the interests of full disclosure, I didn't like the novel anyway, but I don't think it translates well to film. It's just not suitable.
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