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Old September 28 2014, 07:06 PM   #1
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Once Upon A Time Season 4

Season 4 of OUAT starts tonight.

I have been catching up on the show these last few months ever since hearing that Frozen would be involved this year. I'm excited!

Scared and confused, Elsa creates a snow monster for protection; Regina wonders if Marian means the end of her happy-ever-after; Hook is upset to realize Emma seems to be avoiding him; Anna discovers new information about her parents.

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Old September 29 2014, 02:13 AM   #2
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Well, Elsa's still a badass, which is all I care about.

Besides that, the Anna and Elsa actresses are good in the roles, and the Kristoff actor's trying really hard.

Also, Since Beauty and The Beast is one of my favorite Disney movies I thought what Rumple did for Belle was pretty cool.

As for the rest... my biggest problem with this show has always been the characters are more interesting in their fairy tale modes.
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Old September 29 2014, 04:22 AM   #3
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Watching now.

Let it go, let it go ...

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Old September 29 2014, 04:43 AM   #4
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That was a pretty good start to the season.
I like how they're handling the Frozen elements so far. I have to admit, I was surprised Pabie was such a direct take on the movie version.
I liked seeing Sydney/The Mirror back. Giancarlo Espisito's return to Once, is one of the only good things to come out of the cancelation of Revolution.
I'm very curious to see where they are going to go with Regina's search for the book's author.
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Old September 29 2014, 05:17 AM   #5
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Any ideas on who the author is... if its not August / Pinocchio?

I loved the shot of Regina on the floor, on one side of the door and Emma on the other side, promising to help bring about Regina's happy ending.

Hell, Emma, a good start would be to bring Henry over to have supper with Regina.
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Old September 29 2014, 05:20 AM   #6
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Did Rumple turn that thing into the Sorcerer's Apprentice hat? Mickey Mouse gonna show up?
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Old September 29 2014, 06:15 AM   #7
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Loved the episode.

Elsa and Anna were perfectly cast. They did a great job with Elsa's powers. Kristoff and the reindeer were good. Elsa's "I will find you" line is the same phrase that Snow and Charming always use.

I guess Regina and Marion plot will be the thing for the next few episodes. The writers better not take the lazy route and kill off Marion so Regina can get her man.
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Old September 29 2014, 06:35 AM   #8
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Wow. As someone who hasn't seen Frozen, I must say I enjoyed this season premiere, and I find the characters of Elsa and Anna Interesting that I'm compelled to finally rent the movie.

Regina's saving Marian's life didn't surprise me because I knew she's not the monster she once was. But what does she have planned in terms of finding the author of the book and getting her happy ending? Nice episode.
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Old September 29 2014, 07:58 AM   #9
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Old September 29 2014, 08:15 AM   #10
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Watched Frozen for the first time yesterday.

Nice songs, but no story, because there's no villain and no conflict.

(Yes, the fake fiancée, but c'mon!)
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Old September 29 2014, 09:53 AM   #11
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There doesn't have to be a villain for there to be a conflict. In fact, it's usually more interesting when there isn't a villain, which is the case with Frozen-- it's interesting because of the characters and how the story successfully undermines the tropes of the typical Disney movies.
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Old September 29 2014, 03:39 PM   #12
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I'm in.
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Old September 29 2014, 04:05 PM   #13
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There doesn't have to be a villain for there to be a conflict. In fact, it's usually more interesting when there isn't a villain, which is the case with Frozen-- it's interesting because of the characters and how the story successfully undermines the tropes of the typical Disney movies.
No villain? What of Weaselton?

I quite enjoyed the season opener. The ice monster sounded pretty darn close to the version from the movie. So much so that I wonder if they brought in the same voice actor to reprise that part?

Anna's voice here is so close to that from the movie, I can't tell if the actress is intentionally mimicing Kristen Bell's voice, or if they had Bell come in for the dialog, and the actress is lip-syncing.

Loved the Gold/Belle dance, and the new/old take on the B&tB song. I wish it had been extended for a few more minutes. Even without dialog, it was probably the most entertaining part of the episode.

Lovely to hear John Rhys Davis again, as the grandpa troll.

I suppose in this version of the Frozen tale, the Frozen/Tangled crossover didn't happen.

Poor Regina. Are they ever going to give her a happy ending? She isn't entirely evil, she's not a bad guy any more. I wonder if she realizes it? She kept talking about how she was the villain, but I think she's wrong.
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Old September 29 2014, 04:45 PM   #14
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Glad we don't have another evil queen, just a scared queen looking for her sister. It's nice. I enjoyed it.
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Glad we don't have another evil queen, just a scared queen looking for her sister. It's nice. I enjoyed it.
The producers have gone on record, saying this Elsa is post-Frozen, and is not the "big bad" in the series. She's just confused, lost in this new world.
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