RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 140,195
Posts: 5,436,590
Members: 24,949
Currently online: 391
Newest member: Lauran

TrekToday headlines

Trek Screenwriter Washington D.C. Appearance
By: T'Bonz on Oct 23

Two Official Starships Collection Ships
By: T'Bonz on Oct 22

Pine In New Skit
By: T'Bonz on Oct 21

Stewart In Holiday Film
By: T'Bonz on Oct 21

The Red Shirt Diaries #8
By: T'Bonz on Oct 20

IDW Publishing January Comics
By: T'Bonz on Oct 20

Retro Review: Chrysalis
By: Michelle on Oct 18

The Next Generation Season Seven Blu-ray Details
By: T'Bonz on Oct 17

CBS Launches Streaming Service
By: T'Bonz on Oct 17

Yelchin In New Indie Thriller
By: T'Bonz on Oct 17


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Misc. Star Trek > Future of Trek

Future of Trek Discussion of future Trek projects.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old July 26 2011, 05:53 PM   #1
starlitegirl
Lieutenant Commander
 
TV shows?

Does anyone think there's a possibility for another TV show? I know ENT was the last and it didn't fare well enough to make it to a fifth season, but I'm wondering if anyone thinks there's a chance there will be another. I'd really like to see one that's placed even further into the future.
starlitegirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 26 2011, 06:07 PM   #2
FatherRob
Rear Admiral
 
FatherRob's Avatar
 
Location: Citizen of the Kingdom of God (Living in Bargersville, IN)
Re: TV shows?

Well, there are a lot of factors. First, we'll have to see how the JJ reboot of the franchise goes. If it goes well, I would bet that we'd eventually see a TV series, though it will probably be at least seven years to a decade down the line (IMO).

The next question becomes, what kind of TV series - Prime Universe or JJVerse?

Then, finally, where to place it in the universe chosen. Do we follow the adventures of Pine/Kirk's successors on the Enterprise in the JJVerse, or do we get the Enterprise-N in the Prime Universe? Or, something else entirely? (The adventures of the USS Yorktown during the timeframe of JJVerse Trek?)

I am not sure, though, that I want a new TV show. SciFi doesn't seem to be doing all that well on TV these days, and I think that if I did see anything, I would want a very serious reboot with major changes (and nothing that vague resembled the JJVerse). No connection to established continuity... just the bare-bones universe, the concept of a wagon-train to the stars, and complete creative freedom for whoever takes the franchise and runs with it.

Rob+
__________________
"Purity in doctrine... Compassion in application."
FatherRob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 26 2011, 06:37 PM   #3
Dukhat
Commodore
 
Dukhat's Avatar
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
Re: TV shows?

starlitegirl wrote: View Post
Does anyone think there's a possibility for another TV show? I know ENT was the last and it didn't fare well enough to make it to a fifth season, but I'm wondering if anyone thinks there's a chance there will be another. I'd really like to see one that's placed even further into the future.
I hate to break this to you, but CBS has no desire whatsoever to produce another Star Trek television series. I doubt we'll ever see another one.

However, if Hollywood's current creative slump is any indication, who knows? I mean, they made a new Hawaii-5-0 for crying out loud. What's next, a new Barnaby Jones?

The problem now is that television producers can make 20 reality shows for the same price as one Trek show would cost, and get better returns to boot, because there's far more of an audience for reality TV than there is for sci-fi TV.

And Father Rob is correct. The recent crop of sci-fi shows were utter garbage, IMHO. I have no high hopes that a Trek show, if produced right now, would fare any better.
__________________
“Don’t believe everything you read on the internet.”
– Benjamin Franklin
Dukhat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 26 2011, 06:53 PM   #4
FatherRob
Rear Admiral
 
FatherRob's Avatar
 
Location: Citizen of the Kingdom of God (Living in Bargersville, IN)
Re: TV shows?

Dukhat wrote: View Post
The recent crop of sci-fi shows were utter garbage, IMHO. I have no high hopes that a Trek show, if produced right now, would fare any better.
While I have not seen Falling Skies (which I hear is very good), the only recent SciFi television I have cared for is the rebooted V and the rebooted Battlestar Galactica. Since SyFy is an NBC connection, I don't see a new Trek series there, which is the only place one could hope to see the kind of funding needed to pull Trek off correctly.

If SyFy got a series, it would last 3 years, tops.

I also do not see the film franchise surviving the JJ arrival. I think we get three or four movies out of him, and movie Trek gets laid to rest in all but the minds of us fans out here in the ether.

I think that CBS would have to see some kind of major benefit potential before it brought Trek back on-screen in a live-action format TV show. I do think they'll try at some point, but on network television it is doomed to fail, and if it goes onto Showtime (I think that's CBS's premium network connection) I doubt enough of the fanbase will watch to keep it afloat. (Also note, to make it on Showtime, you'd have to add some *ahem* visual benefits *ahem* that you don't get on regular TV... and I think that would probably kill the family appeal that much of Trek had in the 60's and 80's.)

A happy medium would be an annual Star Trek mini-series. (Yea, remember the Mini-Series? It was all the rage back in the 80's!) But, again, is the fanbase broad enough to invest the money in that? I just don't know.

I do know this... the current fanbase is aging, and the kind of engagement you got in the late 60's through early 80's from fans is somewhat lacking. Back in those days, fans felt they owned Trek, and new fans could get right in on the ground floor. Today, there is a wider variety of cult programming to engage in, and Trek is not on the forefront of it anymore.

Unless Trek can regain a similar position in cult fandom, I see little hope of a major Star Trek revival.

Rob+
__________________
"Purity in doctrine... Compassion in application."
FatherRob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 26 2011, 07:08 PM   #5
Dukhat
Commodore
 
Dukhat's Avatar
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
Re: TV shows?

FatherRob wrote: View Post
While I have not seen Falling Skies (which I hear is very good), the only recent SciFi television I have cared for is the rebooted V and the rebooted Battlestar Galactica. Since SyFy is an NBC connection, I don't see a new Trek series there, which is the only place one could hope to see the kind of funding needed to pull Trek off correctly.

If SyFy got a series, it would last 3 years, tops.
While I share your interest in nuBSG, I have to say that I thought nuV was an absolute disaster (and I am a fan of both shows' original versions). And these days I'd rather steer clear of SyFy for any actually intelligent science fiction. If SyFy got Trek, and it lasted three years, it would be the worst three years of Trek ever.
__________________
“Don’t believe everything you read on the internet.”
– Benjamin Franklin
Dukhat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 26 2011, 07:12 PM   #6
FatherRob
Rear Admiral
 
FatherRob's Avatar
 
Location: Citizen of the Kingdom of God (Living in Bargersville, IN)
Re: TV shows?

Dukhat wrote: View Post

While I share your interest in nuBSG, I have to say that I thought nuV was an absolute disaster (and I am a fan of both shows' original versions). And these days I'd rather steer clear of SyFy for any actually intelligent science fiction. If SyFy got Trek, and it lasted three years, it would be the worst three years of Trek ever.
What???

Maneating Nuclear Hurricane Monster VIII: Antartic Slaughter wasn't your cup of tea?

Shocker.

I agree, I don't think SyFy has the guts to make Trek the way it needs to be made. Which is why I doubt it would last three seasons. However, they are the only network that could possibly get the money together.

As for NuV I found it very appealing, in a different way than the original V, which I also find appealing. In a way, I am disappointed by the ending, though, on the flipside, I do like my science fiction ending with the annhilation of the human race from time to time.

Rob+
__________________
"Purity in doctrine... Compassion in application."
FatherRob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 26 2011, 08:24 PM   #7
C.E. Evans
Vice Admiral
 
C.E. Evans's Avatar
 
Location: Saint Louis (aka Defiance)
Re: TV shows?

starlitegirl wrote: View Post
Does anyone think there's a possibility for another TV show? I know ENT was the last and it didn't fare well enough to make it to a fifth season, but I'm wondering if anyone thinks there's a chance there will be another. I'd really like to see one that's placed even further into the future.
I definitely think there will be another Star Trek series, but it could be a long time from now. Possibly long enough where there's a whole generation of viewers who never experienced new episodes of Trek on a weekly basis maybe.

What might be more immediate could be an animated Trek series (either traditional or CGI) that might exist in its own continuity and be aimed at a younger demographic with the intent of expanding the Star Trek brand in that area, IMO.
__________________
"Everybody wants to rule the world..."
C.E. Evans is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 26 2011, 08:52 PM   #8
JRS
Fleet Captain
 
JRS's Avatar
 
Location: Brno, Czech Republic
Re: TV shows?

I also believe that Star Trek will return to its television roots with a new show
Many of the Trek movies are very good..but I am personally often missing a weekly series. Television without Trek-show seems wrong somehow
Maybe some sort of mini-series could be a good idea?
__________________
"Always give your best, never get discouraged, never be petty; always remember, others may hate you, but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them, and then you destroy yourself " - Richard Nixon
JRS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 26 2011, 09:15 PM   #9
Temis the Vorta
Fleet Admiral
 
Temis the Vorta's Avatar
 
Location: Tatoinne
Re: TV shows?

1. Yes, it's possible.

2. But the fact that CBS owns the TV rights makes it unlikely. CBS has lots of more likely ways to make money in the future, such as more cop shows and still more cop shows.

3. However, Showtime is part of the CBS family and there's the outside chance that the success of Game of Thrones on HBO might inspire Showtime to try attracting new subscribers with the same strategy: adapt a high-profile franchise with a large, loyal fanbase.

4. Or, CBS might adopt the same approach as The Clone Wars and create a low-cost animated Star Trek series for The Cartoon Network.

First, we'll have to see how the JJ reboot of the franchise goes.
It's already a success. But what succeeds in movies is very different from what succeeds on TV, and CBS is not Paramount. The movie success might make TV a bit more likely, but not very much more.
Maybe some sort of mini-series could be a good idea?
Like space opera, the mini-series format has almost entirely vanished from TV - and for the same fundamental reason, the economics are against it.
Temis the Vorta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 27 2011, 01:26 AM   #10
nickyboy
Fleet Captain
 
nickyboy's Avatar
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
Re: TV shows?

Star Trek on HBO would be awesome
__________________
"Now if this cross examination is over, I'd like to take a crap"

Romo Lampkin - The Son Also Rises
nickyboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 27 2011, 08:53 PM   #11
Temis the Vorta
Fleet Admiral
 
Temis the Vorta's Avatar
 
Location: Tatoinne
Re: TV shows?

Since Showtime is part of CBS, they might be miffed at CBS handing Trek off to the competition, but ya never know...
Temis the Vorta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 28 2011, 02:10 AM   #12
Kegg
Rear Admiral
 
Kegg's Avatar
 
Location: Ireland.
Re: TV shows?

It's possible Star Trek will have a TV series sometime after Abrams is done with the franchise, but unlikely beforehand.

And Falling Skies has been alright so far. I wouldn't call it very good yet, just merely good (need to get to the fourth episode, though) but I'd be satisfied with a Star Trek show of this caliber.
__________________
'Spock is always right, even when he's wrong. It's the tone of voice, the supernatural reasonability; this is not a man like us; this is a god.'
- Philip K. Dick
Kegg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 28 2011, 10:52 AM   #13
JRS
Fleet Captain
 
JRS's Avatar
 
Location: Brno, Czech Republic
Re: TV shows?

nickyboy wrote: View Post
Star Trek on HBO would be awesome
Yep, that would be really cool
We might actually see a Betazoid wedding on screen..
__________________
"Always give your best, never get discouraged, never be petty; always remember, others may hate you, but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them, and then you destroy yourself " - Richard Nixon
JRS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 29 2011, 12:57 AM   #14
Captain Robert April
Vice Admiral
 
Location: In selfless service to fandom, on the road to becoming a Star Trek trivia god...
Re: TV shows?

Re: the relative success of JJTrek. Yes, the movie made a boatload of money, but it also made the schism in fandom wider than ever, and a lot of the money it made was on the curiosity factor. The next film will be the true test, since it's now a known quantity, and it'll live or die on how many folks it can lure back for more of the same.
Captain Robert April is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 29 2011, 01:12 AM   #15
Temis the Vorta
Fleet Admiral
 
Temis the Vorta's Avatar
 
Location: Tatoinne
Re: TV shows?

The "schism in fandom" is too minor, with far too few people involved, to translate into any kind of money Paramount or CBS is likely to be paying attention to.

The next movie will live or die on the same basis as the last, and also the same basis as any movie in its category (mass-appeal popcorn flick): is it a fun, rollicking adventure worth ten or twelve bucks?
Temis the Vorta is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:48 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.