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Old June 3 2011, 08:23 PM   #1
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Orions in the 24th Century

what is the status of the Orions in the 24th century?

Much of what we know of the orions comes from the original series and Enterprise. In DS9, we are shown a human control syndicate and in voyager references are made of a crewman visiting an institute on Orion I. In trek literature, we see orions as both starfleet officers and syndicate members.
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Old June 3 2011, 08:45 PM   #2
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Re: Orions in the 24th Century

There is a group called the Orion Free Traders mentioned in DS9: "Call to Arms".
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Old June 3 2011, 08:58 PM   #3
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Re: Orions in the 24th Century

My personal fanboy theory isthat the Orions were a front for the ferengi...at least that the Ferengi were behind them (as the Ferengi might be considered weak & unsexy by other races)
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Old June 3 2011, 10:08 PM   #4
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Re: Orions in the 24th Century

The orions arent above using violonce. They would have dominated the Ferengi.

Why werent the ferengi dominated by the way?

My theory they can cause a lot of economic trouble for them by market manipulation and all knid of tricks if somebody would try that.
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Old June 3 2011, 11:25 PM   #5
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Re: Orions in the 24th Century

My guess; the immediate region around Ferenginar was relatively stable when the Ferengi first went to the stars. The nearby powers had its attention elsewhere, giving them the chance to develop an empire of their own.
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Old June 4 2011, 06:33 AM   #6
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Come on the ferengi are so weak someone should had tried to attack, if no one else then pirates.
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Old June 4 2011, 06:39 AM   #7
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Pirates work for the Ferengi who are quite willing to die for their money (er, gold pressed latinum).
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Old June 4 2011, 06:49 AM   #8
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Yeah but why not turn on the Ferengi if they are so weak and rich?

They could not defend themselves.
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Old June 4 2011, 08:59 AM   #9
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The Ferengi hire people to protect themselves, in fact they hired half of the Orions to fight the other half of the Orions.

The Orions never fully recovered.
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Old June 4 2011, 10:11 AM   #10
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Yeah why doesnt the other half the Orions hired by the Ferengi just robs them blind since they have no real defensive capabilities whatsoever.
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Old June 4 2011, 10:22 AM   #11
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Re: Orions in the 24th Century

The Ferengi have been shown to have significant defenses. In the 1st season of TNG, one of their ships paralyzes the Enterprise. They apparently have a military too, buying the technology from other race.

the idea of the Ferengi buying out the services of the Orions is a good one though
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Old June 4 2011, 10:26 AM   #12
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Re: Orions in the 24th Century

Nobody wants Ferenginar. The weather is appalling.
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Old June 4 2011, 06:04 PM   #13
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Re: Orions in the 24th Century

The Orion Syndicate is, by the 24th century, the Space Mafia. Not all Orions are members of a/the syndicate, just like not all Sicilians are members of the Mafia. They appear to have more outward power in the time of Enterprise, but by DS9 had retreated in to the shadows.
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Old June 5 2011, 04:10 AM   #14
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Re: Orions in the 24th Century

For some crazy reason when I saw the title of this thread I thought it said "Onions in the 24th Century."
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Old June 6 2011, 08:35 PM   #15
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Re: Orions in the 24th Century

Warped9 wrote: View Post
For some crazy reason when I saw the title of this thread I thought it said "Onions in the 24th Century."
Yes, Onions, the great scourge of the galaxy and the only villain to make Captain Robau cry
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