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View Poll Results: How Much Did You Enjoy X-MEN: FIRST CLASS?
A+ (Great Movie!) 73 35.61%
A (Entertained a lot!) 93 45.37%
B (Was okay, not bad) 30 14.63%
C (Below expectations) 6 2.93%
D (Very bad) 2 0.98%
F (Intolerable, want money back) 1 0.49%
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Old September 19 2011, 05:00 PM   #856
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keep it in the 60s or move it to the 70s and do more secret history stuff. that stops it from being an X1 retread.
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Old September 19 2011, 05:00 PM   #857
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They better do a sequel soon-ish or else the ensemble cast are going to become too busy to tie down for a sequel. That's why 20th Century Fox rushed X-Men: The Last Stand for 2006 - they didn't want the cast contracts to expire.
Which leads to less scenes for characters we liked and then salary negotiations.

Fassbender is certainly going to be busy moreso now. He's got 3 or 4 movies lined up?

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Old September 19 2011, 05:01 PM   #858
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TTSS is already made and out in the UK.
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Old September 19 2011, 05:51 PM   #859
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Finally saw it this weekend. Enjoyed it, despite the headache generated by characters being pulled form various points in X-History, rather than the actual first class of Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Angel and Beast.
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Old September 19 2011, 06:04 PM   #860
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Finally saw it and I thought it was fantastic.

I have a huge man crush on Fassbender, the guy is brilliant.
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Old September 19 2011, 06:18 PM   #861
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Finally saw it this weekend. Enjoyed it, despite the headache generated by characters being pulled form various points in X-History, rather than the actual first class of Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Angel and Beast.
It's a prequel to the movies, not the comics. Iceman was in the original line up in the comics, but was merely a young student at the school in the original trilogy.
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Old September 19 2011, 06:20 PM   #862
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Samurai8472 wrote: View Post
JacksonArcher wrote: View Post
They better do a sequel soon-ish or else the ensemble cast are going to become too busy to tie down for a sequel. That's why 20th Century Fox rushed X-Men: The Last Stand for 2006 - they didn't want the cast contracts to expire.
Which leads to less scenes for characters we liked and then salary negotiations.

Fassbender is certainly going to be busy moreso now. He's got 3 or 4 movies lined up?

Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy

Shame

Prometheus

A Dangerous Method
He's not in Tinker, Tailor... and Shame has already been completed.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1055413/

However, he's apparently taking the rest of this year off.
http://www.rte.ie/ten/2011/0919/fassbenderm.html
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Old September 20 2011, 02:34 AM   #863
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captcalhoun wrote: View Post
keep it in the 60s or move it to the 70s and do more secret history stuff. that stops it from being an X1 retread.
It seems to me, that at this point at least, they plan on setting the sequel in the seventies.
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Old September 20 2011, 02:53 AM   #864
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Finally saw it this weekend. Enjoyed it, despite the headache generated by characters being pulled form various points in X-History, rather than the actual first class of Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Angel and Beast.
It's a prequel to the movies, not the comics. Iceman was in the original line up in the comics, but was merely a young student at the school in the original trilogy.
Yup. Angel didn't show up until the 3rd movie as a youngin', too. And Xavier's relationship wasn't even close to Erik's in the comics. Even Magneto's name was changed! The changes were made in the first movie.

Shouldn't cause too many headaches when you realize it's not scans of a comic book on the screen.
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Old September 25 2011, 06:36 AM   #865
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I got this and Thor from ITunes today, and I am glad to say I enjoyed it just as much the second time as I did the first. It came with some special features, bu I haven't gotten a chance to check them out yet.
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Old September 25 2011, 07:19 AM   #866
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I totally forgot to mention that I finally got my copy earlier last week...still disappointed that Vaughn or Singer didn't record an audio commentary for the film, would have been really interesting to get their insights on the story and characters. They've both done them before for their films but I guess they weren't available or Fox chose not to put the money towards recording one.
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Old October 3 2011, 03:29 AM   #867
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I didn't think I'd see this thread again! Yay!

Somewhere I did see some numbers out, something like 13 mil units sold and now in second place behind Thor. But that was a while ago, so I don't know.

MF has been doing the festival circuit now and is taking the rest of the year off from making movies. A Dangerous Method and Shame will be out this year, with Haywire and Prometheus next year. The only film that he is signed on for to film next year is the vampire thing with Jim Jarumush. He backed out of several projects supposedly for scheduling, so he might have been told to keep his calendar open. He and McAvoy already said they were signed on for two more.

My fear is that if we get a sequel, we are stuck with whoever was in the First Class, and my only problem with First Class was the lesser mutants. I really hope they make room for a few new ones and lose Angel and Emma Frost. Riptide wasn't that bad, so long as they keep him like Jaws or Oddjob in the silent Bondian style.

Whew.
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Old October 3 2011, 03:45 AM   #868
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TTSS is already made and out in the UK.
Don't I know it. At least 2 more months of waiting here...
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Old October 3 2011, 05:15 AM   #869
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There will only be a sequel if this thread makes 1,000 posts.
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Old October 4 2011, 02:22 AM   #870
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D
On the bright side, Mystique and Beast were pretty well-played and Fassbender did well despite some awkward lines. Otherwise ...

My main complaint was it was so unrestrained and rushed, from three plot strands in the beginning, an excessive amount of characters and plundering of history (the prologue from the first film was very somberly done, especially in comparison).
Though I'm not very into the comics, the point of the Hellfire Club is that they're not ideological and in any case Shaw turned into too much of a mustache-twirler version of Magneto from the first film.
Xavier and Magneto should have been distinctive, the creators and core of the team, rather than meeting with the former already on a mission for the government. Xavier felt like neither a commander nor a colleague of the others.
Most of the powers were uninteresting-bad guys with powers like Nightcrawler and Storm, a female Angel, the ability to grow gills, Havok with a power similar to Cyclops, Mystique being underused and Emma Frost mostly just looking good (what benefits did the crystal form give her?). Moira looked too similar to Ellen Page's Kitty and acted too much like Jean Grey. They were recruited and then set aside ("We'll have to train, all of us" too much later).
Banshee's flying (gliding?) was pretty bland, as was his, Havok and the villains' personalities.
"Just following orders"-Could Xavier have chosen worse words?

Too much like a remake to be a restart (especially the HQ being attacked and the line-repeating) and too inconsistent to be a prequel (Frost being older than in Wolverine, Hank discovering a cure (or thinking he had) early and apparently easily, Xavier knowing the helmet can block his powers).

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