X-MEN: FIRST CLASS - Grading+Discussion **SPOILERS!**

[DBR]

I loved it, and when I saw it again--y'know, just for confirmation--I loved it again!

[Squiggy]

Dream wrote:

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A movie needs to at least make double its production budget in the worldwide total to make a profit, theaters always get a share of the money and studios spend a ton on adversting, a common fact known by people that follow the boxoffice.

So it has to make $330 worldwide first for any chance at a sequel. It is going to take this movie a while to get there.

This movie is a disappointment at the boxoffice, but I guess it'll make a profit eventually.

There are several movies who have had sequels announced before this magical double point. Hangover 3 was announced the day Hangover 2 was released. The rebooted Star Trek 2 was moving forward over a month before Star Trek was released.

[Mach5]

Squiggy wrote:

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There are several movies who have had sequels announced before this magical double point. Hangover 3 was announced the day Hangover 2 was released. The rebooted Star Trek 2 was moving forward over a month before Star Trek was released.

Somehow both these movies ended up being successful. Perhaps the studios had some kind of early projections (estimates, surveys, whatever) that made them optimistic.

The Golden Compass was initially announced as a trilogy, was it not? The monster-budget movie ($180 mil.) ended up making only $70 mil. domestically ($370 mil. globally), and New Line Cinema dumped it.

And then there's Matthew Vaughn's Kick-ass. First there was this, but then this happened. I remember reading somewhere that Lionsgate made a bad deal with Vaughn and Mark Millar and actually ended up losing money on that film.

X-Men FC is sure to get a sequel, I believe. It may not be doing great at the boxoffice, but I'm sure that DVD's are gonna sell like crazy.

[KB24]

^But The Golden Compass sucked. That makes a big difference.

Is there a comparison here in the Narnia film series? Though acclaimed, well done, and popular, Disney let them go, only for another studio be more than happy to pick the series up and continue in modest success.

Getting lofty again here after my boob and droolfest, but I don't wonder if cinema numbers continue to fall that folks would stop adapting material for the big screen that would be better served for the small screen? Harry Potter, though a huge huge hugest money maker certainly had enough material for 7 years of 20 episode shows. X-Men would be sweet as a live action television series. With the mix of TV and stream and the decrease of box office, will major adaptations continue to come to television like Game of Thrones? Can we relearn to sacrifice special effects and big money and replace it with performance and hard hitting story again? Nightmare at 20,000 feet is NOT made by the Gremlin makeup, is it?

[JD]

I would LOVE to see a well done X-Men TV show. There is just sooooo much material there, and after 5 movies we've still barely scratched the surface.

[Gryffindorian]

KB24 wrote:

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Well I meant a t-shirt, but hell yeah when Shame comes out, I bet there will be a lot of people who backtrack and see First Class! I show my boobs a lot. That is the scary things that happens to people who erroneously open the locker room door.

See, the posters with the faces on the shadowed crotches were all wrong! They should have had Erik and Charles sitting in an Attack of the 50 foot women January Jones' cleavage. That would have made some money!

Let me tell you something, my friend, in the question of Bean versus Fassbender, I propose to you this:

Why choose?





Imagination is a beautiful thing! I'd pay money to see that fight.

Fassbender all the way! Oh, yeah.

[Trekker4747]

I really think he'd make a good Bond in a more classical, '60s-like take on the character as the current take on the character and series isn't doing much for me. As mentioned up-thread the scenes with Erik/Magneto seeking out Kevin Bacon were good Bondian-like scenes. Hell all of his scenes pretty much were.

[KB24]

Hey, I had the thread away from strictly Fassbender, but I'll bring it back! Bean gets stabbed in the bar, but Fassbender can make a mean martini. Who wins?





I agree the Craig reboot should have been a period film. That was in fact what I expected. Oh, you are doing the first book, but now it is going to contemporary, and everyone else is the same but Bond? And CR was so off the moment that it is already dated. Sony Ericson phones? I also thought the same for the Fantastic Four films. I expected an introduction to FF to take place in the 60s as well and was very disappointed that it was made into farcical modern fun. I don't understand why we don't just tell tales where they belong.

Coming up next on BBC America: The War Between The States, 2012 starring Gillian Anderson (She was partially raised here, good enough reason for us to air it!)

[C_Miller]

JD wrote:

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I would LOVE to see a well done X-Men TV show. There is just sooooo much material there, and after 5 movies we've still barely scratched the surface.

And I think that a live action X-Men TV show is relatively feasable.

[Praetor_Shinzon]

JD wrote:

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I would LOVE to see a well done X-Men TV show. There is just sooooo much material there, and after 5 movies we've still barely scratched the surface.

just as long as its nothing like Smallville.

[Obiwanshinobi]

Maybe if Joss ever came back to tv and Fox doesn't screw him again we could see Astonishing X-Men transition from page to screen.

[Guy Gardener]

Have you seen the motion-comic of Joss's first book of Astonishing X-Men?

[Obiwanshinobi]

No I haven't but I'll check it out.

[Guy Gardener]

It's panel for panel the comic, as are all all motion comics.

Full cast too.

I think I'll buy a small bottle of bourbon befor I watch Warren Ellis' Extremis Iron Man motion comic.

[Pauln6]

JD wrote:

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I would LOVE to see a well done X-Men TV show. There is just sooooo much material there, and after 5 movies we've still barely scratched the surface.

I agree that it's doable given the current state of CGI but probably only if they adopt a similar feel to the first movie, which was refreshing effects and explosions light. The budget on Heroes was high despite the low use of powered special effects. They would also have to leave out make-up heavy characters like Mystique (unless in disguise), Nightcrawler, and Beast apart from the occasional guest appearance. Even Angel, steel Colossus, or a iced-up Iceman could be a nightmare.

Probably a core of effects-light characters such as Wolverine, Shadowcat, Cyclops, Jean Grey, etc could work and then feature the effects-heavy characters infrequently - sort of like a variable Mission Impossible team.