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View Poll Results: How Much Did You Enjoy X-MEN: FIRST CLASS?
A+ (Great Movie!) 73 35.61%
A (Entertained a lot!) 93 45.37%
B (Was okay, not bad) 30 14.63%
C (Below expectations) 6 2.93%
D (Very bad) 2 0.98%
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Old June 9 2011, 06:16 PM   #361
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"You want society to accept you, but you can't even accept yourself."
Which still doesn't relate the POV of Malcolm X.
Maybe so, but the exploration of said issue makes it far more than a comic book movie about nothing.
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Old June 9 2011, 07:34 PM   #362
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"You want society to accept you, but you can't even accept yourself."
Which still doesn't relate the POV of Malcolm X.
Maybe so, but the exploration of said issue makes it far more than a comic book movie about nothing.
As I said, it's about civil rights too me.
Without it, it is a film about nothing.
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Old June 9 2011, 07:40 PM   #363
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You mean it's not about the Cuban Missile Crisis?
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Old June 9 2011, 07:42 PM   #364
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Which still doesn't relate the POV of Malcolm X.
Maybe so, but the exploration of said issue makes it far more than a comic book movie about nothing.
As I said, it's about civil rights too me.
Without it, it is a film about nothing.
I agree here. The X-Men to me has always, at its core, been a story about the struggle for mutants to be accepted by society.
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You mean it's not about the Cuban Missile Crisis?
Barely.
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Old June 9 2011, 07:48 PM   #365
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Wondered if anyone with a good memory can help, I'm looking for quote before Magneto does his "coin trick" at the end of the movie.
I guess it was something like "Now, I'm going to make this coin move" that kinda thing, but I can't remember exactly.

I'll definitely be seeing it again, but not for a few days.


It would be much appreciated if anyone can remember it!
"This is what we're going to do; I'm going to count to three, then I'm going to move the coin."
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Old June 9 2011, 08:47 PM   #366
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He says something about the count. 'I'm going to count to three and move the coin' mirroring Bacon's opening 'I'm going to count to three and you're going to move the coin.'

I know some people thought it was a silly death, but when you first see Fassbender he's flipping the coin into a picture of Shaw on the wall, and later in his memory you see Shaw doing what seems like trepanning experiments on him. So Having the power to move something so small in such a deadly way was kind of an element carried out through the film for Magneto. At least that was how I took it as another layer. He spends all this time thinking he needs to move something big in his pursuit, and that the small time guns and knives weren't doing the trick. yet it is that little old Nazi coin- the genesis of his mutant development via Shaw- that in the end finishes it. Nice.

Actually, even though things are largely ended with Shaw, I hope if they have a sequel they show Magneto still playing with the same coin. Again showing his deadly vengeance but at the same time hinting that he is still the same traumatized little Erik deep down inside. Really, did the people giving Cs and Ds not see this stuff? I loved the multi layered onion of mutant issues from the main cast.
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Old June 9 2011, 09:48 PM   #367
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As I said, it's about civil rights too me.
Without it, it is a film about nothing.
No, that means the film isn't about what you want it to be about. It is most definitely not a film about nothing.

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I agree here. The X-Men to me has always, at its core, been a story about the struggle for mutants to be accepted by society.


"You want society to accept you, but you can't even accept yourself."

That is, partly, what the movie was about! Were you in the bathroom every time Mystique and Beast were onscreen?
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Old June 9 2011, 10:04 PM   #368
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No, that means the film isn't about what you want it to be about.
No shit, considering I've said a few times "too me" X-Men is about civil rights, so "too me" it's about nothing.




"You want society to accept you, but you can't even accept yourself."

That is, partly, what the movie was about! Were you in the bathroom every time Mystique and Beast were onscreen?
That isn't what the civil rights movement was about.
Where in the bathroom when this was taught in school?
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Old June 9 2011, 10:13 PM   #369
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Wondered if anyone with a good memory can help, I'm looking for quote before Magneto does his "coin trick" at the end of the movie.
I guess it was something like "Now, I'm going to make this coin move" that kinda thing, but I can't remember exactly.

I'll definitely be seeing it again, but not for a few days.


It would be much appreciated if anyone can remember it!
"This is what we're going to do; I'm going to count to three, then I'm going to move the coin."
You are a godsend!
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I know some people thought it was a silly death, but when you first see Fassbender he's flipping the coin into a picture of Shaw on the wall, and later in his memory you see Shaw doing what seems like trepanning experiments on him. So Having the power to move something so small in such a deadly way was kind of an element carried out through the film for Magneto. At least that was how I took it as another layer. He spends all this time thinking he needs to move something big in his pursuit, and that the small time guns and knives weren't doing the trick. yet it is that little old Nazi coin- the genesis of his mutant development via Shaw- that in the end finishes it. Nice.

Actually, even though things are largely ended with Shaw, I hope if they have a sequel they show Magneto still playing with the same coin. Again showing his deadly vengeance but at the same time hinting that he is still the same traumatized little Erik deep down inside. Really, did the people giving Cs and Ds not see this stuff? I loved the multi layered onion of mutant issues from the main cast.
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Whatever other complaints have been lobbied, which are small imo, the layering you mention was a take-a-way I had that made the movie for me. Gave it that depth, took out the ole mustache twirling villains cliche.
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Old June 9 2011, 10:26 PM   #371
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No shit, considering I've said a few times "too me" X-Men is about civil rights, so "too me" it's about nothing.
Fair enough. That just seems myopic and closed minded to me. If a movie isn't about exactly what you want it to be about, that = it's about nothing? To each their own.

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That isn't what the civil rights movement was about.
Where in the bathroom when this was taught in school?
My comment was in response to RoJoHen, hence the reason I quoted him.
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I know some people thought it was a silly death, but when you first see Fassbender he's flipping the coin into a picture of Shaw on the wall, and later in his memory you see Shaw doing what seems like trepanning experiments on him. So Having the power to move something so small in such a deadly way was kind of an element carried out through the film for Magneto. At least that was how I took it as another layer. He spends all this time thinking he needs to move something big in his pursuit, and that the small time guns and knives weren't doing the trick. yet it is that little old Nazi coin- the genesis of his mutant development via Shaw- that in the end finishes it. Nice.

Actually, even though things are largely ended with Shaw, I hope if they have a sequel they show Magneto still playing with the same coin. Again showing his deadly vengeance but at the same time hinting that he is still the same traumatized little Erik deep down inside. Really, did the people giving Cs and Ds not see this stuff? I loved the multi layered onion of mutant issues from the main cast.
+1
Whatever other complaints have been lobbied, which are small imo, the layering you mention was a take-a-way I had that made the movie for me. Gave it that depth, took out the ole mustache twirling villains cliche.
Also, something like the small moving coin is probably the only kind of thing that will penetrate his skin. Shaw simply would've absorbed the impact if Erik had shot the coin like a bullet.
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Old June 9 2011, 11:31 PM   #373
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Magneto could have crushed the hull of the sub really slowly too. Wouldn't have been as fitting though.
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the x-men have all ways been about cival rights. now my question is how many sceenes were is actual 3d? and do you have to stay all the way to the end of the credits like in thor and pirates?
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Old June 9 2011, 11:46 PM   #375
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There was no 3D release for it (thank god) And no you don't have to stay through the entire credits.

All the scenes are 3D, but shot in standard 2D.
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