Smallville10x21&22 "Finale" Discuss/Grade

[DarthPipes]

Guy Gardener wrote:

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Jimmy's younger brother Jimmy turned up at Jimmy's funeral.

The lad looked like he was 10.

Lois mentioned Vince Lombardi a couple weeks ago.

That made me smile.

What an awful retcon that was. After telling Chloe earlier in his season that he lied about his parents because his father was an alcoholic he didn't want to deal with, his father shows up with a brother he never knew. Henry James Olson was a joke...

I wouldn't have erased Lex's memories. Someone on another board noted that they had made such a good point about "the destiny of two great men" that they thought Lex would never reveal Clark's secret.

One thing though...seeing the Daily Planet reminds me how old media the newspaper industry is. It's a dying industry and seeing Lois behind the camera makes a little more sense now.

[Admiral_Young]

^ I assume Brian is referring to the final scene of the episode...and why do we separate threads for every little thing dealing with the episode. That's what the episode thread is for.

[Gojira]

I know people are complaining of CGI Superman but what I wanted to see most was Superman in action so I knew he'd be CGI. That's what satisfied me the most.

[Capt_Pickirk]

Well, thank goodness the show's ended.

Nothing gained, nothing lost.

[Christopher]

I'd assume he's talking about the scene where Lois and Clark were on opposite sides of a door, exchanging their wedding vows. It's certainly one of the strongest scenes of the episode, nicely written and beautifully shot, with the camera circling around the two of them repeatedly even though there was a door and a wall between them. Very clever stuff, a high point in a wildly uneven two hours.

[Mach5]

Captain Mike wrote:

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Nothing wrong with either if you had an opened mind.....

Are you calling TATV haters closed-minded? Because you know, it's a pretty big camp you're bashing here. Just saying.

As for the "Finale"... Smallville, in its entirety, is crap. I'm with Gaith on this one. What began as a solid reboot of Superman mythos, soon became a steaming pile of horse shit.

I did, however, decide to watch the final season, just to see Clark finally become Supes, and I believe it more or less delivered. Also, hearing John Williams' music in the and was a huge WTF moment, in a good way I mean. I really didn't expect them to do that.

[JarodRussell]

Mach5 wrote:

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Are you calling TATV haters closed-minded? Because you know, it's a pretty big camp you're bashing here. Just saying.

As for the "Finale"... Smallville, in its entirety, is crap. I'm with Gaith on this one. What began as a solid reboot of Superman mythos, soon became a steaming pile of horse shit.

Haha, you don't realize what you just did, do you?

[beamMe]

Samurai8472 wrote:

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He wore a blue shirt but the \S/ was CGI

No, it was actually a real prop/costume-element.

[Mach5]

JarodRussell wrote:

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Haha, you don't realize what you just did, do you?

Expressed my profoundly personal and subjective view of the series and its finale?

[CorporalClegg]

It's when the execs to him not to let it hit him on the way out.

Oh wait, that was just a dream.

[Obiwanshinobi]

Jerry Seinfeld: "what's the deal with the door scene?"

[Admiral_Young]

I thought about the apartment scene too but given Brian's usual cryptic description of things I was thinking that he meant the final shot where Clark walks out the door onto the roof of the planet and rips open his shirt. It really could be either one of those scenes. They both are "Smallville" moments.

[Admiral_Young]

^ Williams music has been used in the series before...not sure why it was a surprise that it would be used in the final scenes.

[Mach5]

Admiral_Young wrote:

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^ Williams music has been used in the series before...not sure why it was a surprise that it would be used in the final scenes.

I obviously missed it, having given up on the show ages ago.

[Gaith]

timothy wrote:

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they had to have jimmy in it other wise it would'nt be superman.

Not directed at you, especially since the producers seemed to agree, but I hate this line of thinking. Was TDK not Batman, or not good Batman, because it didn't have Robin? Am I the only one who doesn't give a rat's ass whether there's a minor character in there named "Jimmy"?

Mach5 wrote:

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As for the "Finale"... Smallville, in its entirety, is crap. I'm with Gaith on this one. What began as a solid reboot of Superman mythos, soon became a steaming pile of horse shit.

Hold on now; no reason to throw out the first two seasons-baby with the last-eight bathwater. And I fully stand by my opinion that on objective artistic merit, "Pilot", not to mention "Rosetta", "Lineage", "Memoria" (even though it's S3) and several others, are better than any of the Supes movies.

That said, from what I've read, and even taking Clana angst into account, the writing on the first three seasons absolutely blows this latter stuff out of the water.