SGU needed Flashbacks, not Stones

Morpheus 02 · May 11 2011, 10:53 PM

For me, one of the things that bothered me about SGU was the lack of connection to the previous series...and what i mean is this:
presumably, the military personnel were on teams either with SG Command and/or Atlantis. Surely they had experiences or learned life lessons that would have helped.

Now i'm not suggesting they should have had a Lost-style format with flashbacks EVERY week. But if they're going to borrow nuBSG's "feel", why not another genre show?

They could have used ANY Stargate character -- or even none at all. Either way, it would have relayed to me that the characters are truly in the same universe at the others shows, and that SG-1 or the Atlantis command team weren't the only competant people.

To me, the stones were a cheap & convenient way to do earth based stories. (though the last couple were pretty dramatic...it still bothers me how it's very big deal to gate inbetween Destiny & Earth, but like nothing for the stones)

Skywalker · May 11 2011, 10:57 PM

I agree. I hated the stones.

Uncle Tobias · May 11 2011, 11:02 PM

Would have been cool, I agree.

The Wormhole · May 11 2011, 11:37 PM

I agree SGU should have had flashback, or at the very least a flashback episode, I would not have eliminated the stones. Remaining in contact with Earth was a good idea, they just should have used the stones more logically than the idiotic things we saw.

Agent Richard07 · May 12 2011, 12:07 AM

The stones were an absolutely fantastic concept and a nice addition to the series. I wouldn't want them gone.

Samurai8472 · May 12 2011, 12:54 AM

Flashback's would seem too LOST/BSG

Broccoli · May 12 2011, 05:24 PM

Weren't people complaining when flashbacks were used in the first episode?

Robert Maxwell · May 12 2011, 05:29 PM

I didn't mind the stones as a concept, just the way they were used for cheap soap opera antics.

Morpheus 02 · May 12 2011, 05:33 PM

Broccoli wrote:

Weren't people complaining when flashbacks were used in the first episode?

Maybe because they did't have the Lost flash back sound effect?

DarKush · May 12 2011, 06:18 PM

I thought the stones were a neat concept, but they overdid them. If I had had my druthers there wouldn't have been any stones, or if there had been, the effects of using them would be more deleterious (sp), to prevent common use. I think the stones minimized the sense of isolation, loneliness. I think having Universe cut off from Earth was one of the things that made it different, but similar to Atlantis, they reestablished contact with Earth quickly and I think they lost something as a result.

I wouldn't have minded flashbacks but not overdoing that either, like the Event did at first.

TiberiusMaximus · May 12 2011, 06:29 PM

Flashbacks? No, what they needed was musical montages, in which nothing significant happens and pop music...oh, wait. Nevermind.

If they had used flashbacks, we would have complained and made fun of and criticized those, too.

Harvey · May 12 2011, 07:16 PM

Broccoli wrote:

Weren't people complaining when flashbacks were used in the first episode?

You'll have to refresh my memory, but didn't that episode just use flashbacks in order to pointlessly mix up its chronology, rather than to reach back and illuminate the characters' history?

Meredith · May 12 2011, 07:18 PM

The flashbacks could be explained by the ship screwing with people testing them to see if they were "worthy".....

Broccoli · May 12 2011, 09:42 PM

Harvey wrote:

Broccoli wrote:

Weren't people complaining when flashbacks were used in the first episode?

You'll have to refresh my memory, but didn't that episode just use flashbacks in order to pointlessly mix up its chronology, rather than to reach back and illuminate the characters' history?

Both.

AJ86 · May 12 2011, 09:46 PM

Yeah, there were also some TJ flashback IIRC. I think they used flashbacks more in Lost though, for the Greer backstory. They also shot a load for TJ in The Hunt that had to be cut for time.

May 11 2011, 10:53 PM	#1
Morpheus 02 Commodore Location: Chicago IL	SGU needed Flashbacks, not Stones For me, one of the things that bothered me about SGU was the lack of connection to the previous series...and what i mean is this: presumably, the military personnel were on teams either with SG Command and/or Atlantis. Surely they had experiences or learned life lessons that would have helped. Now i'm not suggesting they should have had a Lost-style format with flashbacks EVERY week. But if they're going to borrow nuBSG's "feel", why not another genre show? They could have used ANY Stargate character -- or even none at all. Either way, it would have relayed to me that the characters are truly in the same universe at the others shows, and that SG-1 or the Atlantis command team weren't the only competant people. To me, the stones were a cheap & convenient way to do earth based stories. (though the last couple were pretty dramatic...it still bothers me how it's very big deal to gate inbetween Destiny & Earth, but like nothing for the stones) __________________ Morpheus 02 a.k.a. JP Paulus jp [at] paulus . com

May 11 2011, 10:57 PM	#2
Skywalker Admiral	Re: SGU needed Flashbacks, not Stones I agree. I hated the stones.

May 11 2011, 11:02 PM	#3
Uncle Tobias Lieutenant	Re: SGU needed Flashbacks, not Stones Would have been cool, I agree.

May 11 2011, 11:37 PM	#4
The Wormhole Admiral	Re: SGU needed Flashbacks, not Stones I agree SGU should have had flashback, or at the very least a flashback episode, I would not have eliminated the stones. Remaining in contact with Earth was a good idea, they just should have used the stones more logically than the idiotic things we saw. __________________ "Internet message boards aren't as funny today as they were ten years ago. I've stopped reading new posts." -The Simpsons 20th anniversary special.

May 12 2011, 12:07 AM	#5
Agent Richard07 The Tim Burton Version Location: Defying Logic	Re: SGU needed Flashbacks, not Stones The stones were an absolutely fantastic concept and a nice addition to the series. I wouldn't want them gone.

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May 12 2011, 12:54 AM	#6
Samurai8472 Vice Admiral	Re: SGU needed Flashbacks, not Stones Flashback's would seem too LOST/BSG __________________ "Inception" is a layer cake.

May 12 2011, 05:24 PM	#7
Broccoli Vice Admiral Location: Broccoli	Re: SGU needed Flashbacks, not Stones Weren't people complaining when flashbacks were used in the first episode? __________________ "That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." -- Christopher Hitchens

May 12 2011, 05:29 PM	#8
Robert Maxwell Cherry Chassis Location: The Track	Re: SGU needed Flashbacks, not Stones I didn't mind the stones as a concept, just the way they were used for cheap soap opera antics. __________________ Your crash was, like, spectacular! My world simulation project! Also: Women and Men: Self-Image and Rape Culture

May 12 2011, 06:18 PM	#10
DarKush Rear Admiral	Re: SGU needed Flashbacks, not Stones I thought the stones were a neat concept, but they overdid them. If I had had my druthers there wouldn't have been any stones, or if there had been, the effects of using them would be more deleterious (sp), to prevent common use. I think the stones minimized the sense of isolation, loneliness. I think having Universe cut off from Earth was one of the things that made it different, but similar to Atlantis, they reestablished contact with Earth quickly and I think they lost something as a result. I wouldn't have minded flashbacks but not overdoing that either, like the Event did at first.

May 12 2011, 06:29 PM	#11
TiberiusMaximus Fleet Captain Location: A ship, a living ship, full of strange alien lifeforms.	Re: SGU needed Flashbacks, not Stones Flashbacks? No, what they needed was musical montages, in which nothing significant happens and pop music...oh, wait. Nevermind. If they had used flashbacks, we would have complained and made fun of and criticized those, too. __________________ "Quite possibly, the five Jem'Hadar could turn Data into a collection of four spasming limbs, one helpless torso, and one head that shouts insults at them like the Black Knight from the Monty Python sketch." -Timo Saloniemi

May 12 2011, 07:18 PM	#13
Meredith Vice Admiral Location: Abh Space	Re: SGU needed Flashbacks, not Stones The flashbacks could be explained by the ship screwing with people testing them to see if they were "worthy"..... __________________ Laws only work if everyone is honest, no piece of paper is going to stop a truly deranged person from doing something atrocious.

May 12 2011, 09:46 PM	#15
AJ86 Captain	Re: SGU needed Flashbacks, not Stones Yeah, there were also some TJ flashback IIRC. I think they used flashbacks more in Lost though, for the Greer backstory. They also shot a load for TJ in The Hunt that had to be cut for time.