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Old August 30 2011, 01:13 AM   #1
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How does LeVar Burton actually see outta that thing?

The groves of Geordi's VISOR are so thin that I wouldn't be surprised if I were to interview him to tell me that he's been crashing into things when walking around on the sets.

I mean, the way they made it... so strange... in a funny way.

But in First Contact, he doesn't wear it anymore. Could it be that some point between Generations and First Contact, Beverly found some other way to see without the VISOR?

Not that I don't like Geordi with the VISOR on, in fact, I'm not that used to seeing him without it, it's just that I wonder how his actor portraying him manages to see through it without bumping into the cast and crew and into things.
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Old August 30 2011, 01:30 AM   #2
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Re: How does LeVar Burton actually see outta that thing?

There are slats in the VISOR prop that he can see though. It's like looking through small open window blinds.
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Old August 30 2011, 01:32 AM   #3
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Re: How does LeVar Burton actually see outta that thing?

It was probably made out of the same material they use for foil sunglasses. They would allow him to see out of the visor, whilst the foil covered up his eyes. Burton did mention in interviews that it still restricted his vision, so we have to assume he learnt ways to manage.

I think they switched to the optical implants in FC to make it easier for Burton. It must be extremely hard as an actor being unable to fully convey facial expressions with such a device covering your eyes. It did make sense to switch to them as it's been mentioned that the VISOR caused Geordi pain and we have to assume that the implants negated this pain. The implants also seem to have more functions, such as a zoom function (as seen in FC).
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Old August 30 2011, 01:33 AM   #4
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The first VISOR prop was based on a hair barrette. The key is that when the rods were that close to his eyes, they'd blur enough that they wouldn't really obscure his vision too much. Later on, they switched to a different VISOR which I'm pretty sure had the "rods" printed on a flat, translucent surface, so it was more like seeing through mirrored sunglasses.
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Old August 30 2011, 01:51 AM   #5
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Old August 30 2011, 02:12 AM   #6
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The first VISOR prop was based on a hair barrette. The key is that when the rods were that close to his eyes, they'd blur enough that they wouldn't really obscure his vision too much. Later on, they switched to a different VISOR which I'm pretty sure had the "rods" printed on a flat, translucent surface, so it was more like seeing through mirrored sunglasses.
Oh, really? I thought that was the same VISOR prop worn by him in all seven seasons of the show.

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Old August 30 2011, 04:06 AM   #7
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But Burton *couldn't* see out of that VISOR!

I recently watched some interviews with Burton on the interwebs and he spoke about wearing the VISOR, how it really did obscure his vision. He could only see directly in front of him, limited peripheral range, and so on. I can believe it.
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Old August 30 2011, 04:20 AM   #8
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The first time Geordi actually didn't need to wear the VISOR in long scenes was in the series finale All Good Things with all the scenes that took place in the future. He looked waaay better without it.

Not sure why they went back to the VISOR look in GEN and THEN go back to the optical implants in FC. They should have had him VISOR less starting with GEN.
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Old August 30 2011, 04:30 AM   #9
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Not sure why they went back to the VISOR look in GEN and THEN go back to the optical implants in FC. They should have had him VISOR less starting with GEN.
They didn't have the time, there was only a few weeks break between the wrap of AGT and the filming of GEN. Everything was quickly put together and only small cosmetic changes were made to existing sets in order to make the more cinema friendly.
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Old August 30 2011, 04:34 AM   #10
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I don't think giving Geordi the All Good Things look for GEN really would have taken too much effort. Just replace the VISOR with blue contacts. They can explain his new look the same way they did in FC, with one line and a single visual effects shot.

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Old August 30 2011, 04:40 AM   #11
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But Burton *couldn't* see out of that VISOR!

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He could only see directly in front of him, limited peripheral range, and so on.
So... he could see.
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Old August 30 2011, 04:41 AM   #12
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Re: How does LeVar Burton actually see outta that thing?

At the end of "All Good Things," Picard was able to close the anomaly, so all the changes which had taken place in the present — including Geordi's eyes being regenerated — were undone.

While there was never a Trek-world explanation for Geordi's switch to the ocular implants, I'd imagine it was a combination of them finally becoming as good as the VISOR (that was one of the objections Geordi gave Dr. Pulaski when she offered to perform the surgery), plus the fact that this was now twice that an enemy had been able to compromise the VISOR — first the Romulans in "The Mind's Eye," then Soran and the Klingons in Generations.
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Old August 30 2011, 05:08 AM   #13
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I liked how Geordi in the possible future in AGT had blue eyes and in FC has blue ocular implants.

In real life Levar Burton has really brown eyes.
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Old August 30 2011, 07:49 AM   #14
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The first VISOR prop was based on a hair barrette. The key is that when the rods were that close to his eyes, they'd blur enough that they wouldn't really obscure his vision too much. Later on, they switched to a different VISOR which I'm pretty sure had the "rods" printed on a flat, translucent surface, so it was more like seeing through mirrored sunglasses.
As far as I know, both the original and revised VISOR props used thin brass rod set into the prop's aluminum frame. Here's a photo of a screen-used one from Generatons that clearly shows the thickness. This is a fan-made one built along the lines you describe, and it doesn't look right.

EDIT: In fact, one of the prop makers from HMS Props describes exactly how they built the thing later in that same thread.
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Old August 30 2011, 02:38 PM   #15
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While there was never a Trek-world explanation for Geordi's switch to the ocular implants, I'd imagine it was a combination of them finally becoming as good as the VISOR (that was one of the objections Geordi gave Dr. Pulaski when she offered to perform the surgery), plus the fact that this was now twice that an enemy had been able to compromise the VISOR — first the Romulans in "The Mind's Eye," then Soran and the Klingons in Generations.
That's addressed in the e-novella Slings and Arrows Book III: The Insolence of Office by William Leisner, part of a miniseries about the first year or so that the Enterprise-E ws in service. In it, Admiral Hayes orders Geordi to give up the VISOR because of the security risks it's been shown to pose.


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As far as I know, both the original and revised VISOR props used thin brass rod set into the prop's aluminum frame. Here's a photo of a screen-used one from Generatons that clearly shows the thickness. This is a fan-made one built along the lines you describe, and it doesn't look right.
Okay, I'll take your word for it. All I know for sure is that the later VISOR looked different; in the original, the rods alternated being connected only to the top or only the bottom, like the hair barrette it was inspired by, but in the later one all the rods went all the way from top to bottom. It looked to me like it might have been done the way I described, but I was just guessing.
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