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Old September 14 2012, 06:58 AM   #331
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Also, yes, it's hard to imagine that a street thug-turned-boss man might have sired a child when he, himself, was still very much underage, too. That sort of thing just doesn't happen, especially in California.
Really?

I mean, I don't know much about California, but I had a patient yesterday who was 43, and came in with her 16 year old granddaughter. Is it so different out there that a 50 year old guy couldn't have a +/- 27 year old daughter?

What is the complaint here?
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Old September 14 2012, 08:03 AM   #332
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I was being a bit facetious in order to emphasize that a drug dealer having a child when he, himself, was only 12-13 is far from an impossibility.
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Old September 14 2012, 11:01 AM   #333
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I thought the premiere was ok. The Tig + burning scene didn't bug me as far as who was burning or what his reaction was.

I thought Pope killing his new lackey was a little silly... a little too cartoon villain for me. Last season was pretty bad... the CIA nonsense carrying over is not going to help this season. And now we have a third person who should really want to off Ron Perlman's monkey-face but for some reason won't because I'm sure he'll be around until at least the season finale but wouldn't be surprised if he also made it to the series finale.

And what's with Jimmy Smit? Call me if you need anything! Oh you need me to hide your fugitive son... no problem!
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Old September 14 2012, 11:37 AM   #334
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And what's with Jimmy Smit? Call me if you need anything! Oh you need me to hide your fugitive son... no problem!
They probably ran an intel operation on him ofscreen. Thats the explanation i came up with. They should not trust him just because he replaced Clay in bed.

Am i the only one who tought Bail Organa was one of the bikers banging some porn chicks at first?
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Old September 14 2012, 12:23 PM   #335
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Smit's character is very confusing. I, too, thought he was just some random biker during that initial scene. When he turned out to be a suave pimp the next morning, I was confused as heck.

But, yeah, I have no idea why Gemma would trust him to this degree, or why he'd be willing to house some biker fugitives and risk bringing all that heat down on his 'escort' service. Gemma must have a really phenomenal vagina on her or something. How does SAMCRO not have any safehouses set up? They're professional criminals who have had to go on the lam multiple times now. I'd think it was something of a priority for them.
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Old September 14 2012, 12:30 PM   #336
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We don't know if it will turn out to be a good plan. Also, who knows what story Gemma has told him. It doesn't have to be anything like the truth. This may have seemed an idea because it is relatively unconnected in any way to the Sons (so far as we know). They may have thought any safe houses they had would be watched by either the police or by the Niners and Pope.
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Old September 14 2012, 12:44 PM   #337
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Well, you have to be pretty thick to not realize you're housing a bunch of bikers who are dressed up as bikers. And you have to be nearly as thick to not realize that if you are housing a bunch of bikers under the radar, it's not because they're planning a birthday party or something.

Also, the whole point of a safehouse is that it's something no one knows about. Or at least as few people as possible. Hence the use of the word "safe" in "safehouse." It's not a "let's go to that one property we publicly own or are otherwise known to associate with to hide out; surely no one will think to look for us there"-house.

Edit: I apologize if I sound confrontational. It's not my intent, but after reading over the post it does seem that way evne to me, and I'm not sure why.
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Old September 14 2012, 06:50 PM   #338
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But, yeah, I have no idea why Gemma would trust him to this degree, or why he'd be willing to house some biker fugitives and risk bringing all that heat down on his 'escort' service.
He can probably handle himself. He was with ''muscle'' whne he talked to Gemma on the phone.

Also, the whole point of a safehouse is that it's something no one knows about. Or at least as few people as possible. Hence the use of the word "safe" in "safehouse." It's not a "let's go to that one property we publicly own or are otherwise known to associate with to hide out; surely no one will think to look for us there"-house.
Charming looks like a small town so if they would rent some houses people would probably know about it. Makes sense. I remeber the FBI once trying to follow someone in a small town. People constantly went to their car and wanted to know who were they.
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Old September 14 2012, 06:58 PM   #339
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Smits is obviously a player in the underworld. How big we do not know yet. But if he is in the charming area he knows who Gemma and samcro are since they keep a highly public profile. Smits' motivation is leverage either from samcro, their enemies or both. Would not be surprised if his night with Gemma is not the result of some date rape drug. She doesn't seem like the type to blackout.
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Old September 14 2012, 07:22 PM   #340
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Organa is a handsome guy, i don't think he needs a date rape drugs. If he just wanted to do business he would had called them or would had sent an ambassador.
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Old September 14 2012, 08:36 PM   #341
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Charming looks like a small town so if they would rent some houses people would probably know about it. Makes sense. I remeber the FBI once trying to follow someone in a small town. People constantly went to their car and wanted to know who were they.
Why stay in Charming though? If this were 'reality,' the smartest thing they'd do is lose the jackets, dress like normal people, hop in a couple of cars, and get a motel room a good distance away (such as the next state over in either direction) but close enough to get back in a hurry if they really need to.

With the exception of their facial hair, they really wouldn't stand out all that much. But, c'est la vie.
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Old September 14 2012, 10:04 PM   #342
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Organa is a handsome guy, i don't think he needs a date rape drugs. If he just wanted to do business he would had called them or would had sent an ambassador.
All true. I'm just thinking In terms that would make for a more dramatic story. In skits case it's better to negotiate from a position of strength, "you guys owe me."

In gemma's case she has benn around too many tequila bottles to black out on shots alone.
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Old September 15 2012, 09:49 AM   #343
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Charming looks like a small town so if they would rent some houses people would probably know about it. Makes sense. I remeber the FBI once trying to follow someone in a small town. People constantly went to their car and wanted to know who were they.
Why stay in Charming though? If this were 'reality,' the smartest thing they'd do is lose the jackets, dress like normal people, hop in a couple of cars, and get a motel room a good distance away (such as the next state over in either direction) but close enough to get back in a hurry if they really need to.

With the exception of their facial hair, they really wouldn't stand out all that much. But, c'est la vie.
Probably they don't want to leave the club leaderless if a really bi crisis happens.

Anybody else annoyed by the fact that the geeky fat guy is still around? The other new aditions at least look like gangsters.
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Old September 16 2012, 04:29 PM   #344
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Are they even in Charming still? I find it hard to believe that this high-class cathouse exists in ''their'' small town and not a single person had a clue about it until now. Especially considering that they've had their fingers in similar pies since the start of the series.
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Old September 17 2012, 01:55 PM   #345
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Smits did day that the place was off the beaten path or something to that effect. Also Samcro probably wouldnt even notice something like a high class cathouse as they appear to deal with a lower class of clientel and they have been a tad busy these past few years dealing with bigger problems.
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