Whovian Whumor - Page 20

Emh · April 3 2012, 11:06 PM

Half that list seems more like a personal agenda against certain characters (or just The Doctor himself) than looking at objectively. Yes, The Doctor is a bastard for the events The Unearthly Child, choking Peri, tormenting Ace in The Curse of Fenric and The Ghost Light, and his acts during the Time War.

But Leela is not a blood thirsty serial killer and the author conveniently forgets how The Doctor regularly chastised her for her violence and use of Janis thorns as well as trying to educate her in nearly every story.

I'm also amused that, while the article opens with a photo from "The Family of Blood," the author leaves this out, which is odd considering it's a situation that I do agree that The Doctor acts like a complete bastard and is called out on it by Joan.

There are certainly enough cases to fill up a top ten list of The Doctor acting like a complete bastard, but this author didn't accomplish it here.

doubleohfive · April 3 2012, 11:13 PM

I don't know. The last two items in particular are pretty douche-tastic.

Emh · April 3 2012, 11:33 PM

Donna, yes, but I'm not convinced with River. River broke out of prison on her own on a regular basis as opposed to be locked away all her life except on The Doctor's will as the article suggest.

doubleohfive · April 3 2012, 11:36 PM

River went to prison for a crime she didn't commit, as we now know. So, she's consigned to spend her life in jail, so the Doctor can fly under the radar.... which he ends up not doing anyway. It's not about whether she can escape on her own or not - it's about the fact that the whole reason she's there in the first place is to protect the Doctor by continuing the facade that she killed him and that he's dead. Except he isn't, and based on the Christmas Special, he's made no effort to be discreet about it.

Then when River finally does die, her ultimate fate is to be a cyber nanny to a bunch of kids who don't really exist, not because she wants to but because the Doctor doesn't have any other way of keeping her alive after she dies.

I'd call that pretty douche-y.

Photoman15 · April 4 2012, 03:27 AM

Emh wrote:

I'm also amused that, while the article opens with a photo from "The Family of Blood," the author leaves this out, which is odd considering it's a situation that I do agree that The Doctor acts like a complete bastard and is called out on it by Joan.

I don't think he did. You can't blame the Doctor for what happened to the town/city. He knew that the Family would not find him if everything was done right. If Tim didn't steal the watch and open it, the Family would not have found what they were looking for and moved on.

His punishment of the Family was poetic justice.

Emh · April 4 2012, 09:36 AM

doubleohfive wrote:

River went to prison for a crime she didn't commit, as we now know. So, she's consigned to spend her life in jail, so the Doctor can fly under the radar.... which he ends up not doing anyway. It's not about whether she can escape on her own or not - it's about the fact that the whole reason she's there in the first place is to protect the Doctor by continuing the facade that she killed him and that he's dead. Except he isn't, and based on the Christmas Special, he's made no effort to be discreet about it.

Then when River finally does die, her ultimate fate is to be a cyber nanny to a bunch of kids who don't really exist, not because she wants to but because the Doctor doesn't have any other way of keeping her alive after she dies.

I'd call that pretty douche-y.

Fair enough on both counts. I forgot about the second part (the cyber nanny bit) and I'll definitely agree that sucks. That was the one part of the whole two-parter that I didn't like.

Photoman15 wrote:

Emh wrote:

I'm also amused that, while the article opens with a photo from "The Family of Blood," the author leaves this out, which is odd considering it's a situation that I do agree that The Doctor acts like a complete bastard and is called out on it by Joan.

I don't think he did. You can't blame the Doctor for what happened to the town/city. He knew that the Family would not find him if everything was done right. If Tim didn't steal the watch and open it, the Family would not have found what they were looking for and moved on.

His punishment of the Family was poetic justice.

Yes, what he did to the Family of Blood was poetic justice (and what Joan called The Doctor out on doesn't even cover that considering she didn't know about it), but Joan is also right that if The Doctor hadn't even gone there, people wouldn't have died and it's that part I consider selfish and bastardly. And it's not fair to blame Tim for this because The Doctor shouldn't have left it lying around like that.

That all being said, I'm sorry for derailing this fun thread with a silly serious discussion.

JaxsBrokenHeart · April 4 2012, 10:34 AM

This needs to exist:

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Count Zero · April 4 2012, 11:52 PM

JaxsBrokenHeart wrote:

This needs to exist:

Doctor Who: The 16-Bit RPG

That sums the Moffat era up pretty well. I love the ending.

G2309 · April 7 2012, 07:47 PM

JaxsBrokenHeart wrote:

This needs to exist:

Doctor Who: The 16-Bit RPG

I like how they do their game parodies.The blink option made me laugh.

G2309 · April 7 2012, 07:52 PM

JaxsBrokenHeart wrote:

This needs to exist:

Doctor Who: The 16-Bit RPG

I like how they do their game parodies.The blink option made me laugh.

oops sorry I didn't mean to post it twice.

Mad Jack Wolfe · May 18 2012, 06:20 PM

Satyrquaze · May 18 2012, 07:16 PM

^ I'm stealing that and making it my desktop.

Wereghost · May 18 2012, 07:46 PM

Found this via SFX's Spurious Awards Of The Week:

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auntiehill · May 20 2012, 10:50 PM

Found this cute gif on the DoctorPuppet site:

ToddKent · June 1 2012, 09:59 PM

Here's a cool looking 10 Cake

April 3 2012, 11:06 PM	#286
Emh The Doctor Location: Japan	Re: Whovian Whumor Half that list seems more like a personal agenda against certain characters (or just The Doctor himself) than looking at objectively. Yes, The Doctor is a bastard for the events The Unearthly Child, choking Peri, tormenting Ace in The Curse of Fenric and The Ghost Light, and his acts during the Time War. But Leela is not a blood thirsty serial killer and the author conveniently forgets how The Doctor regularly chastised her for her violence and use of Janis thorns as well as trying to educate her in nearly every story. I'm also amused that, while the article opens with a photo from "The Family of Blood," the author leaves this out, which is odd considering it's a situation that I do agree that The Doctor acts like a complete bastard and is called out on it by Joan. There are certainly enough cases to fill up a top ten list of The Doctor acting like a complete bastard, but this author didn't accomplish it here. __________________ "Eccleston was a tiger and Tennant was, well, Tigger. Smith [is] an uncoordinated housecat who pretends that he meant to do that after falling off a piece of furniture." - Lynne M. Thomas "I'm in Hell and it's full of Avons!" - Vila

April 3 2012, 11:13 PM	#287
doubleohfive Fleet Admiral Location: Los Angeles, CA	Re: Whovian Whumor I don't know. The last two items in particular are pretty douche-tastic. __________________ "I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it." -Voltaire

April 3 2012, 11:33 PM	#288
Emh The Doctor Location: Japan	Re: Whovian Whumor Donna, yes, but I'm not convinced with River. River broke out of prison on her own on a regular basis as opposed to be locked away all her life except on The Doctor's will as the article suggest. __________________ "Eccleston was a tiger and Tennant was, well, Tigger. Smith [is] an uncoordinated housecat who pretends that he meant to do that after falling off a piece of furniture." - Lynne M. Thomas "I'm in Hell and it's full of Avons!" - Vila

April 3 2012, 11:36 PM	#289
doubleohfive Fleet Admiral Location: Los Angeles, CA	Re: Whovian Whumor River went to prison for a crime she didn't commit, as we now know. So, she's consigned to spend her life in jail, so the Doctor can fly under the radar.... which he ends up not doing anyway. It's not about whether she can escape on her own or not - it's about the fact that the whole reason she's there in the first place is to protect the Doctor by continuing the facade that she killed him and that he's dead. Except he isn't, and based on the Christmas Special, he's made no effort to be discreet about it. Then when River finally does die, her ultimate fate is to be a cyber nanny to a bunch of kids who don't really exist, not because she wants to but because the Doctor doesn't have any other way of keeping her alive after she dies. I'd call that pretty douche-y. __________________ "I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it." -Voltaire

April 4 2012, 10:34 AM	#292
JaxsBrokenHeart Lieutenant	Re: Whovian Whumor This needs to exist: Doctor Who: The 16-Bit RPG

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May 18 2012, 06:20 PM	#296
Mad Jack Wolfe Lieutenant Commander	Re: Whovian Whumor __________________ Life is full of disappointments. For instance, I really hoped "Chariots of Fire" would be a remake of "Ben Hur" with flame throwers.

May 18 2012, 07:16 PM	#297
Satyrquaze The finest Vice Admiral in the fleet Location: Satyrquaze	Re: Whovian Whumor ^ I'm stealing that and making it my desktop. __________________ “If at first you don't succeed, cheat, repeat until caught, then lie.” -Anomymous

May 18 2012, 07:46 PM	#298
Wereghost Commodore Location: Ireland.	Re: Whovian Whumor Found this via SFX's Spurious Awards Of The Week: http://doctorpuppet.tumblr.com/ __________________ "As long as war is regarded as wicked, it will always have its fascination. When it is looked upon as vulgar, it will cease to be popular." Oscar Wilde

May 20 2012, 10:50 PM	#299
auntiehill Fleet Admiral Location: av by Chemahkuu	Re: Whovian Whumor Found this cute gif on the DoctorPuppet site: __________________ “Throughout history, every mystery ever solved has turned out to be NOT. MAGIC.” --Tim Minchin

June 1 2012, 09:59 PM	#300
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