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Old April 27 2011, 08:10 PM   #16
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Even if it's slowly running out of steam (Sackhoff & Takei felt a geek-too-far/shark moment), it's still a damn sight funnier than 99% of British sitcoms...
Bull. I'll stand any season of Blackadder or Red Dwarf up against this tripe and have absolutely no fear that the britcom will get the most laughs.
Having seen neither (apart from clips of Blackadder which everyone says is brilliant but all seems to consist of is: darling/cunning plan/the jokiest joke in all of jokedom) will have to take your word Maybe they're both in that 1%?

OK, I'll change hyperbole to: it's a damn sight funnier than the British sitcoms I have seen, of which there are some but not all.
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Old April 27 2011, 10:55 PM   #17
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Even if it's slowly running out of steam (Sackhoff & Takei felt a geek-too-far/shark moment), it's still a damn sight funnier than 99% of British sitcoms...
Bull. I'll stand any season of Blackadder or Red Dwarf up against this tripe and have absolutely no fear that the britcom will get the most laughs.
I tend to prefer the style of Britcoms to most American sitcoms, myself.
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Old April 28 2011, 01:01 PM   #18
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I enjoy TBBT. I'm glad they added the girls to the show, gives it an extra dimension.
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Old April 28 2011, 01:14 PM   #19
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Even if it's slowly running out of steam (Sackhoff & Takei felt a geek-too-far/shark moment), it's still a damn sight funnier than 99% of British sitcoms...
Bull. I'll stand any season of Blackadder or Red Dwarf up against this tripe and have absolutely no fear that the britcom will get the most laughs.
I tend to prefer the style of Britcoms to most American sitcoms, myself.
I like both. I must be special.
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Old April 28 2011, 02:33 PM   #20
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I could never get into it, myself. The geek humour always felt too forced to me, and lacks the natural flow that it had in something like Spaced. It's all right for what it is, I guess, but I've never really understood why it's so beloved.
This. The show bugs me because it reeks of the regular hacks that work for Chuck Lorre cribbing from a geek culture they know nothing about. They mention all the touchstones but the humor is in no way clever. In fact, their favorite joke is endless variations on "Man, aren't nerds weird?!?!" Just hacky shit all around, IMO.
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Old April 28 2011, 05:19 PM   #21
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^ Yeah, that's exactly how I feel. There's a lot of name-dropping, but very little humour seems to come from a knowledge of the culture they're co-opting. My girlfriend was watching an episode a while back, where there was a joke about two characters arguing whether they should watch Deep Space 9 or Babylon 5. Eventually, they decided on Blake's 7 as a compromise, because it's between the two, obviously. But when I heard it, I couldn't help but feel that whoever wrote that joke had no idea what any of those shows are about, and just went "Ha! All these shows have names that end in numbers and are nerdy! This is gold!"

Then, of course, I compare to something like this (context: they've upset a friend badly, and she's run off):

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Old April 28 2011, 05:26 PM   #22
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It rings true to this geek. My sister and her husband recommended I watch because the characters reminded them of me and my friends. Wasnt sure what to make of that (Since my sister now lives halfway across the country her memories of me and my friends are mostly from when we were in high school and college) but I decided to watch anyway. And dammmit, they were right. Yes there is some comedic exaggeration but I do recognize pieces of myself in Leonard, Raj, Howard and god help me Sheldon. My oldest friend who has a closet full of Star Trek uniforms and onced owned a comic shop doesnt like it though. Too close to home I guess.

I dont think getting the references "right" is as important as getting the attitudes right.
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Old April 28 2011, 07:13 PM   #23
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^ Yeah, that's exactly how I feel. There's a lot of name-dropping, but very little humour seems to come from a knowledge of the culture they're co-opting. My girlfriend was watching an episode a while back, where there was a joke about two characters arguing whether they should watch Deep Space 9 or Babylon 5. Eventually, they decided on Blake's 7 as a compromise, because it's between the two, obviously. But when I heard it, I couldn't help but feel that whoever wrote that joke had [i]no[/] idea what any of those shows are about, and just went "Ha! All these shows have names that end in numbers and are nerdy! This is gold!"
I recall an argument between the characters about whether "Star Trek V: The Final Frontier" had better visual effects than "The Motion Picture" that just made me
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Old April 28 2011, 07:24 PM   #24
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The Motion Picture obviously has the better effects.
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Old April 28 2011, 07:46 PM   #25
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^ Yeah, that's exactly how I feel. There's a lot of name-dropping, but very little humour seems to come from a knowledge of the culture they're co-opting. My girlfriend was watching an episode a while back, where there was a joke about two characters arguing whether they should watch Deep Space 9 or Babylon 5. Eventually, they decided on Blake's 7 as a compromise, because it's between the two, obviously. But when I heard it, I couldn't help but feel that whoever wrote that joke had [i]no[/] idea what any of those shows are about, and just went "Ha! All these shows have names that end in numbers and are nerdy! This is gold!"
I recall an argument between the characters about whether "Star Trek V: The Final Frontier" had better visual effects than "The Motion Picture" that just made me
Given the debates I've read and taken part in on the board, it doesn't strike me as improbable.
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Old April 28 2011, 08:00 PM   #26
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^ Yeah, that's exactly how I feel. There's a lot of name-dropping, but very little humour seems to come from a knowledge of the culture they're co-opting. My girlfriend was watching an episode a while back, where there was a joke about two characters arguing whether they should watch Deep Space 9 or Babylon 5. Eventually, they decided on Blake's 7 as a compromise, because it's between the two, obviously. But when I heard it, I couldn't help but feel that whoever wrote that joke had [i]no[/] idea what any of those shows are about, and just went "Ha! All these shows have names that end in numbers and are nerdy! This is gold!"
I recall an argument between the characters about whether "Star Trek V: The Final Frontier" had better visual effects than "The Motion Picture" that just made me
Given the debates I've read and taken part in on the board, it doesn't strike me as improbable.
Except in the actual episode, it was total nonsense. The whole scene felt like it was written by someone who had seen neither movie, and based the entire argument on the belief that the newer movie must have better effects simply because it's newer.

The argument would have no change in substance if the titles of the movie had been swapped out with any other two movies.
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Old April 28 2011, 08:10 PM   #27
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I recall an argument between the characters about whether "Star Trek V: The Final Frontier" had better visual effects than "The Motion Picture" that just made me
Given the debates I've read and taken part in on the board, it doesn't strike me as improbable.
Except in the actual episode, it was total nonsense. The whole scene felt like it was written by someone who had seen neither movie, and based the entire argument on the belief that the newer movie must have better effects simply because it's newer.

The argument would have no change in substance if the titles of the movie had been swapped out with any other two movies.
Same can be said for most arguments here. The names change but the arguments remain the same.

Somewhere on this board there is a member or even two, who might agree that STV's FX were better, Hell they might even think that STV is the better movie!!!!!
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Old April 28 2011, 08:20 PM   #28
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Re: The Big Bang Theory

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Given the debates I've read and taken part in on the board, it doesn't strike me as improbable.
Except in the actual episode, it was total nonsense. The whole scene felt like it was written by someone who had seen neither movie, and based the entire argument on the belief that the newer movie must have better effects simply because it's newer.

The argument would have no change in substance if the titles of the movie had been swapped out with any other two movies.
Same can be said for most arguments here. The names change but the arguments remain the same.

Somewhere on this board there is a member or even two, who might agree that STV's FX were better, Hell they might even think that STV is the better movie!!!!!
And exactly which planet would those people be logging on from?
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Old April 28 2011, 08:28 PM   #29
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Except in the actual episode, it was total nonsense. The whole scene felt like it was written by someone who had seen neither movie, and based the entire argument on the belief that the newer movie must have better effects simply because it's newer.

The argument would have no change in substance if the titles of the movie had been swapped out with any other two movies.
Same can be said for most arguments here. The names change but the arguments remain the same.

Somewhere on this board there is a member or even two, who might agree that STV's FX were better, Hell they might even think that STV is the better movie!!!!!
And exactly which planet would those people be logging on from?
Earth. We have a wide and diverse culture here. And for some reason different tastes. Weird, I know.
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Old April 29 2011, 04:16 AM   #30
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Excellent endgame by Sheldon, based upon a similar tactic by Capt. Kirk in a certain 3rd season episode ("Let That Be Your Last Battlefield")
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