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Old June 24 2014, 07:43 PM   #2506
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Man, it is weird seeing Varys (Conleth Hill) with hair (the guy in the blue-gray suit standing between Lena Headey and Kit Harrington)! I didn't realize it was him until one of the comments on that page pointed it out. I just thought he was one of the directors or producers initially.
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Old June 24 2014, 07:46 PM   #2507
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^^^
I didn't recognize him either until you pointed that out!
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Old June 24 2014, 08:11 PM   #2508
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When you refer to "writing style," you're talking about the way Martin structures his thoughts and assembles his sentences.
No, I'm talking about his style of operating. The terms has more than one meaning.
Not to be obtuse, but you're using a term -- "writing style" -- that has a specific literary meaning. When you talk about "writing style," those words refer to the way that a writer constructs his words. The meaning that you're trying to ascribe to "writing style" is incorrect.

For what it's worth, I agree with you that that Martin's working style of heavy rewriting wouldn't work with a cowriter. But I don't expect that anyone would expect or want Martin to use a cowriter just to get a book out sooner.
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Old June 24 2014, 08:20 PM   #2509
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For what it's worth, I agree with you that that Martin's working style of heavy rewriting wouldn't work with a cowriter.
I would say the bigger issue is less his rewriting (the co-writer could create a skeleton which he could revise, which would still probably speed things a lot) than his emphatic refusal to outline his work in detail, which he says he can't do.

Not to be obtuse, but you're using a term -- "writing style" -- that has a specific literary meaning. When you talk about "writing style," those words refer to the way that a writer constructs his words. The meaning that you're trying to ascribe to "writing style" is incorrect.
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Old June 24 2014, 08:31 PM   #2510
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I would say the bigger issue is less his rewriting (the co-writer could create a skeleton which he could revise, which would still probably speed things a lot) than his emphatic refusal to outline his work in detail, which he says he can't do.
His refusal to write anywhere apart from his home office is also a factor. His editor has tried to convince him to get a laptop and do some writing when he's travelling, but no dice.
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Old June 24 2014, 08:43 PM   #2511
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^^^ From what I recall, he still writes everything on an old pre-Windows 3.11 DOS computer and transfers the files via floppy disks . You can actually see it in action on the most recent John Oliver show on HBO, where he proudly proclaims he's just killed off 3 of John's favorite characters.

Hope he never suffers a permanent crash on that old abacus of his.
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^^^ From what I recall, he still writes everything on an old pre-Windows 3.11 DOS computer and transfers the files via floppy disks . You can actually see it in action on the most recent John Oliver show on HBO, where he proudly proclaims he's just killed off 3 of John's favorite characters.

Hope he never suffers a permanent crash on that old abacus of his.
Wasn't that great, I laughed so hard.
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Old June 24 2014, 10:48 PM   #2513
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Will Jaime ever get visited by his Aunt Genna and be told some curious things about his pedigree?
Given that show-Jaime brutally murdered her son, Aunt Genna probably wouldn't say anything that kind to him anyway.
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Will Jaime ever get visited by his Aunt Genna and be told some curious things about his pedigree?
That's not curious. That's figurative, as should be obvious from the context.
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Old June 25 2014, 04:41 PM   #2515
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James Hibberd interviewed Michelle Fairley about her role in 24 and also asked about Lady Stoneheart:

You couldn’t have missed the online furor over the lack of Lady Stoneheart in the Thrones finale. Were you surprised by that attention?

I actually haven’t seen any of that. I don’t look that stuff up. I avoid it like the plague. I was totally unaware.

There was a lot of online conversation. I heard third-hand that you were basically told that it’s not likely to ever happen. Is that accurate?

Yeah, the character’s dead. She’s dead.

Do you have a preference at all—do you think Catelyn’s arc should end where it ended, or would you be into the resurrection idea?

You respect the writers’ decision. I knew the arc, and that was it. They can’t stick to the books 100 percent. It’s impossible—they only have 10 hours per season. They have got to keep it dramatic and exciting, and extraneous stuff along the way gets lost in order to maintain the quality of a brilliant show.
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Old June 25 2014, 05:15 PM   #2516
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Weird. This kind-of leads to an inverse spoiler on the books. As Martin loves throwing a bunch of stuff in between major story arcs that could conceivably have no real goal, and since he's always letting the showrunners know what the most important things are to fit in a 10-hour season, this would imply that Lady Stoneheart has no greater bearing on the storyline. How disappointing...
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Old June 25 2014, 05:18 PM   #2517
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It could turn out that Michelle Fairley is going the extra mile to keep Lady Stoneheart's inclusion in the show a surprise... or she might really be cut altogether. If she doesn't show up in season five she won't show up at all.
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Old June 25 2014, 06:57 PM   #2518
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Anyone seen casting calls for S5? I think they should either be close to starting filming or have already just started it. I suspect that Stoneheart should be close to the beginning. That should conclusively determine her continued role.
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Old June 25 2014, 07:00 PM   #2519
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She's not lying. Catelyn Stark is dead. Lady Stoneheart is not the same person.
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Anyone seen casting calls for S5? I think they should either be close to starting filming or have already just started it. I suspect that Stoneheart should be close to the beginning. That should conclusively determine her continued role.
They only put out casting calls if they're going to be doing open auditions. If the role is already cast or they're making a direct offer to a name actor there's no need for a casting call.
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