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Old April 13 2013, 04:27 AM   #1
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Are All Universes Ultimately Connected?

Do you think that all universes are ultimately connected? Not just the various Star Trek universes (e.g., the DS9 Mirror Universe), but all fictional universes, such as the Robocop universe, the Terminator universe, the He-Man universe, the DC and Marvel universes, etc. Even cartoon universes, such as the Looney Tunes universe.

Could someone theoretically travel to any of these fictional universes (all being a part of the multiverse), or are they not connected in any way?
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Old April 13 2013, 04:29 AM   #2
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Re: Are All Universes Ultimately Connected?

In fanfiction anything is possible.
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Old April 13 2013, 04:45 AM   #3
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Re: Are All Universes Ultimately Connected?

For TV, maybe.
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Old April 13 2013, 04:46 AM   #4
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Re: Are All Universes Ultimately Connected?

They're all connected in that they are all fictional universes that were created in this universe. So it's pretty heavy stuff if one tries to think about it under the influence.
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Old April 13 2013, 10:41 AM   #5
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Re: Are All Universes Ultimately Connected?

THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST by Robert Heinlein
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Old April 13 2013, 01:28 PM   #6
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Re: Are All Universes Ultimately Connected?

Captain McBain wrote: View Post
Do you think that all universes are ultimately connected? Not just the various Star Trek universes (e.g., the DS9 Mirror Universe), but all fictional universes, such as the Robocop universe, the Terminator universe, the He-Man universe, the DC and Marvel universes, etc. Even cartoon universes, such as the Looney Tunes universe.

Could someone theoretically travel to any of these fictional universes (all being a part of the multiverse), or are they not connected in any way?

Technically the answer is no, since only things that can happen do happen in the alternate realities - and things like He-Man or Harry Potter or superheroes with magical powers and outrageous backstories don't really fit with how things work in Star Trek's world. They're too different to say they're the result of X or Y happening differently in the distant past.

That said, if you're watching or reading a crossover story and it's done well, it's easy enough to suspend disbelief for the duration of that story. And Trek has given it's characters super ("Plato's Stepchildren") and magical ("Magicks of Megas Tu") powers before, although those episodes are usually ignored in the grand scheme of things.
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Old April 13 2013, 03:14 PM   #7
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Re: Are All Universes Ultimately Connected?

Yes.

They're all connected through ours. Since they're all fiction.

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Technically the answer is no, since only things that can happen do happen in the alternate realities - and things like He-Man or Harry Potter or superheroes with magical powers and outrageous backstories don't really fit with how things work in Star Trek's world. They're too different to say they're the result of X or Y happening differently in the distant past.
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Old April 13 2013, 03:23 PM   #8
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^Hence my second paragraph. They shouldn't, but they
sometimes do anyway
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Old April 13 2013, 03:26 PM   #9
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They're all connected through my TV set.
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Old April 13 2013, 03:45 PM   #10
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THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST by Robert Heinlein
Beat me to it.
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Old April 13 2013, 06:45 PM   #11
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No, the only connection is the Andromeda universe.
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Old April 13 2013, 09:14 PM   #12
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Most shows are all the dream of an autistic boy named Tommy Westphall:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Westphall
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Old April 13 2013, 10:18 PM   #13
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Most shows are all the dream of an autistic boy named Tommy Westphall:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Westphall
Best "WTF?" moment in television history.
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Old April 13 2013, 10:43 PM   #14
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Re: Are All Universes Ultimately Connected?

^ And not even that definitive, really. Just because Tommy might have dreamed of a thing, a place, an entire show, etc., doesn't mean it didn't "really happen".

And who's to say that the final scene itself wasn't the dream?
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Old April 13 2013, 11:22 PM   #15
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^Because "life is not a dream." Spock said so. It's canon.
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