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View Poll Results: Rate DTI: Watching The Clock
Outstanding 92 58.60%
Above Average 43 27.39%
Average 13 8.28%
Below Average 3 1.91%
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Old May 26 2011, 07:53 AM   #211
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Old May 26 2011, 01:16 PM   #212
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No, it was a purposeful analogy. See reasons 2, 4, and 5 in my post above.

If you're saying I didn't justify the Vault sufficiently in the book itself, that's a valid criticism. But is it really that surprising that the Federation would rather store dangerous discoveries for careful, controlled study than simply destroy them? This is a civilization that prizes exploration and knowledge, not a police state that pre-emptively destroys everything it doesn't approve of. I didn't think it really needed to be justified.
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Old May 26 2011, 01:58 PM   #213
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That pretty much pegged me. My biggest problem with many time travel stories is the protagonists are left without consequences or memory. Since there are infinite universes, you can do no wrong, merely create a new universe. Also, like with the butterfly effect, it seems no matter what you do when you go back in time, you'll cause changes.

I'll check it out. Christopher's winky face is challenging me to find the answers.

And your friend has been on you for weeks to read it.

Perhaps said friend should remember to deliver his copy. Said friend himself also took a few weeks to join trekbbs.
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Old May 27 2011, 02:55 AM   #214
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No, it was a purposeful analogy. See reasons 2, 4, and 5 in my post above.

If you're saying I didn't justify the Vault sufficiently in the book itself, that's a valid criticism. But is it really that surprising that the Federation would rather store dangerous discoveries for careful, controlled study than simply destroy them? This is a civilization that prizes exploration and knowledge, not a police state that pre-emptively destroys everything it doesn't approve of. I didn't think it really needed to be justified.
Oh, I wasn't talking about your level of justification of the Vault at all, I was just talking about the analogy. I was just saying Area 51 in Stargate doesn't seem analogous to me to the Vault or to the warehouse in Raiders because it's explicit in Stargate, but implicit in your book and Raiders. I entirely agree with your points, and that's pretty much what I thought for the Vault too, I just meant it seemed a bad choice of analogy to use alongside Raiders because they outright explain all that stuff for Area 51.

It wasn't a criticism of the book at all, just a very, very minor one of the comparison.
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Old May 27 2011, 03:01 AM   #215
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Just finished (finally) & loved it. Now I finally have an answer to the question: Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?.
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Old May 27 2011, 03:03 AM   #216
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Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?.
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Old May 27 2011, 02:25 PM   #217
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No, it was a purposeful analogy. See reasons 2, 4, and 5 in my post above.

If you're saying I didn't justify the Vault sufficiently in the book itself, that's a valid criticism. But is it really that surprising that the Federation would rather store dangerous discoveries for careful, controlled study than simply destroy them? This is a civilization that prizes exploration and knowledge, not a police state that pre-emptively destroys everything it doesn't approve of. I didn't think it really needed to be justified.
Oh, I wasn't talking about your level of justification of the Vault at all, I was just talking about the analogy. I was just saying Area 51 in Stargate doesn't seem analogous to me to the Vault or to the warehouse in Raiders because it's explicit in Stargate, but implicit in your book and Raiders. I entirely agree with your points, and that's pretty much what I thought for the Vault too, I just meant it seemed a bad choice of analogy to use alongside Raiders because they outright explain all that stuff for Area 51.

It wasn't a criticism of the book at all, just a very, very minor one of the comparison.
More analogous to the warehouse in Warehouse 13 I would have thought...
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Old May 27 2011, 05:21 PM   #218
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Pardon me if you have been asked this before - but are you planning on setting up a series for the DTI?
Planning? No. I actually expected this to be a one-shot, so I crammed in everything I could, tried to make it sort of a series unto itself. I was, however, open to the possibility of continuations. And as it happens, my editor invited me to do a TOS/DTI novel for 2012 -- it's called Forgotten History and will involve the origins of the DTI.
Very cool.
Look forward to reading it.
I also would like to see a book that deals with the events that are set in motion at the very end of the book.
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Old May 27 2011, 06:47 PM   #219
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I also would like to see a book that deals with the events that are set in motion at the very end of the book.
I'd call that very unlikely, since
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Old May 27 2011, 06:55 PM   #220
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Plus due to the joys of time travel, you already got the gist of what happened, the results, and even how it came together (more or less). The chronological beginning was just the last bit you saw in the book...
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Old May 27 2011, 10:13 PM   #221
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Finished A Time to Sow but need to read DTI before I continue. Anyway I just started what does UTC stand for???

As in 18:27 UTC.
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Old May 27 2011, 10:32 PM   #222
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Finished A Time to Sow but need to read DTI before I continue. Anyway I just started what does UTC stand for???

As in 18:27 UTC.
Coordinated Universal Time.
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Old May 27 2011, 10:49 PM   #223
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Finished A Time to Sow but need to read DTI before I continue. Anyway I just started what does UTC stand for???

As in 18:27 UTC.
Coordinated Universal Time.
Ah thanks.
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Old May 27 2011, 11:11 PM   #224
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Plus due to the joys of time travel, you already got the gist of what happened, the results, and even how it came together (more or less). The chronological beginning was just the last bit you saw in the book...
Ah, you gotta love that wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff.
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only four books away till I get to this series can't wait currently reading star trek typhon pact zero sum game I love it so far. I hope this series goes as fast as the destiny series did.
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