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Old April 19 2011, 01:43 AM   #1
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Times you thought Archer was great.

I wanna talk about the times where he wasn't completely incompetent. This was inpired by watching fortunate son.
I thought it was awesome when they bring the first officer guy onboard and then he says
"there is another lifeform on your ship"
"One of the children has an [alienpet] if thats what you mean"
and then archer says "I think you know that's not what we mean"
And when he orders trip to remove the repairs was a fantastic scene.
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Old April 19 2011, 02:27 AM   #2
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Re: Times you thought Archer was great.

During his speech at the end of Terra Prime.
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Old April 19 2011, 02:29 AM   #3
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Re: Times you thought Archer was great.

I thought he was pretty good in....

Damage - the moral weight of his decisions bearing on him was well played.

The Augment Trilogy - the scene where he risks himself by letting himself be blown out into space in order to save everyone is brilliant.

The Vulcan Trilogy - We see him finally come to terms with Vulcans as a race.

The Andorian Trilogy - His willingness to fight Shran in order to preserve the peace between the Andorians and Tellarites is great.

Demons/Terra Prime - Especially his speech at the end.
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Old April 19 2011, 03:25 AM   #4
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Re: Times you thought Archer was great.

I liked him with Degra in the fake shuttle.
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Old April 19 2011, 05:23 AM   #5
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Re: Times you thought Archer was great.

I liked when he got hit in the face
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Old April 19 2011, 07:58 AM   #6
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Re: Times you thought Archer was great.

Yeah, I liked him every time he got his ass kicked.
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Old April 19 2011, 09:08 AM   #7
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Re: Times you thought Archer was great.

I thought Archer was great on many occasions. Like that time when he punched Q right in the face!

No, wait, that was Sisko.
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Old April 19 2011, 11:37 AM   #8
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Re: Times you thought Archer was great.

When he blew up Reptillian Guy on the Xindi weapon. Stone cold BAMF.
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Old April 19 2011, 12:17 PM   #9
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I thought Archer was great on many occasions. Like that time when he punched Q right in the face!

No, wait, that was Sisko.
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Old April 19 2011, 12:49 PM   #10
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Re: Times you thought Archer was great.

Season 3 and 4, excluding Hatchery.
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Old April 19 2011, 12:55 PM   #11
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Re: Times you thought Archer was great.

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I thought Archer was great on many occasions. Like that time when he punched Q right in the face!

No, wait, that was Sisko.


Seriously now, I thought Seasons 3 and 4 were pretty good for Archer on the whole. I really loved his attempt at badassness during the Xindi crisis.
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Old April 19 2011, 01:32 PM   #12
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Re: Times you thought Archer was great.

Keyword: "Attempt"
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Old April 19 2011, 02:33 PM   #13
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Keyword: "Attempt"
Well, it was a nice try.
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Old April 19 2011, 03:07 PM   #14
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Re: Times you thought Archer was great.

Archer was awesome all over the place. Too many times for me count, particularly Seasons 3 & 4. But unfortunately, him getting his ass kicked is all that remains for some. I liked the idea of him holding an almost borderline bigoted attitude towards Vulcans throughout the first season. Some attempt at showing humans, even ones with a lot of responsibility on their shoulders, still had a long way to go before being as enlightened as Gene Roddenberry always insisted we'd become.

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I wanna talk about the times where he wasn't completely incompetent. This was inpired by watching fortunate son.
I thought it was awesome when they bring the first officer guy onboard and then he says
"there is another lifeform on your ship"
"One of the children has an [alienpet] if thats what you mean"
and then archer says "I think you know that's not what we mean"
And when he orders trip to remove the repairs was a fantastic scene.
Funny you mention "Fortunate Son", his handling of the Naussicans rocked.

Without digging out my DVDs, there was one bit where something like this happens.

Archer: "You're not sneaking up on an old cargo ship anymore. This is an NX-class starship.

Take a good look. You'll be seeing more of them!"

That's a punch the air moment from a pioneering Starfleet Captain right there.
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Old April 19 2011, 03:47 PM   #15
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ChristopherPike wrote: View Post
I liked the idea of him holding an almost borderline bigoted attitude towards Vulcans throughout the first season. Some attempt at showing humans, even ones with a lot of responsibility on their shoulders, still had a long way to go before being as enlightened as Gene Roddenberry always insisted we'd become.
It's a pity they made the vulcans complete dicks though.
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