The Continuity of Days Gone By

[Steve Mollmann]

Oh, sweet! Nicely done. Kinda makes me want to read them all in order.

[Therin of Andor]

SicOne wrote:

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What is the loose Terran translation of that phrase, Therin?

That's the fun of it. We have no idea. It could be an equivalent of the Vulcan "Live long and prosper", but do Andorians want other sentient aliens to live long and prosper?

I've used "Thiptho lapth" ever since seeing it in the Goldsteins' book and I love that context can make it mean whatever readers interpret it to mean. When Marco sent me an advance manuscript of "Andor: Paradigm", I suggested including the phrase; he liked the idea, but it was too late (the manuscript was sitting in an In-tray at Simon & Schuster Sydney for a few weeks before they sent it on.). Heather Jarman had assumed the phrase was my own creation.

[Christopher]

Therin of Andor wrote:

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That's the fun of it. We have no idea. It could be an equivalent of the Vulcan "Live long and prosper", but do Andorians want other sentient aliens to live long and prosper?

It means "Smurf."

[Therin of Andor]

Christopher wrote:

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A lot of early novels disregarded the animated series, probably due to the authors' unfamiliarity with it; this was before it was released on home video.

Yeah, the late Janet Kagan agreed with me that mentioning TAS's M'Ress, even in passing, might have strengthened the discussion of felinoids in "Uhura's Song" (she only mentioned McIntyre's Snarl), but she didn't have any familiarity with TAS.

[Therin of Andor]

Christopher wrote:

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It means "Smurf."

Shhhh. Don't smurfing give away all my secrets.

[ryan123450]

Awesome chronological list, Christopher. More tidbits that will be useful for the TOS page of my site.

[ryan123450]

KingDaniel wrote:

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I think the Black Fleet was mentioned in (I think) Children of Kings.

Anyone know if this is right? I think this would be the only link to the novel continuity in The Children of Kings.

[SicOne]

Therin of Andor wrote:

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That's the fun of it. We have no idea. It could be an equivalent of the Vulcan "Live long and prosper", but do Andorians want other sentient aliens to live long and prosper?

I've used "Thiptho lapth" ever since seeing it in the Goldsteins' book and I love that context can make it mean whatever readers interpret it to mean. When Marco sent me an advance manuscript of "Andor: Paradigm", I suggested including the phrase; he liked the idea, but it was too late (the manuscript was sitting in an In-tray at Simon & Schuster Sydney for a few weeks before they sent it on.). Heather Jarman had assumed the phrase was my own creation.

Thanks...I didn't know if it was like "Live long and prosper" or if it was more along the lines of "Employees are encouraged to wash hands after using toilet"...

[Turtletrekker]

ryan123450 wrote:

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I for one have found your 'Charting the Novel-verse' thread extremely interesting and useful, Turtletrekker. I've actually mined it extensively already for a project I'm working on. Thank you so much for all the information. If I have your blessing, I'm working on a website that will list everything connected in the Lit-verse in chronological order, with notes, for each series, and then a seperate chronological list of the entrie Lit-verse. I got about 80% of my info from your work, so I'd love your ok before I publish my site. (The other 20% of the info is from hours of scouring Memory-Beta and a few other places on the web. I've found about 15 or 20 more connections than are in the 'Charting the Novel-verse' thread.)

Throw an acknowledgment my way and maybe a link to this thread, and we're golden.

Thanks for all your help everyone, especially Turtletrekker.

No Prob.

[captcalhoun]

ryan123450 wrote:

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Anyone know if this is right? I think this would be the only link to the novel continuity in The Children of Kings.

it's possible, because KRAD's reused the Black Fleet in his Klingon novels and it's sort of seeped into others, iirc.

[King Daniel into Darkness]

ryan123450 wrote:

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Anyone know if this is right? I think this would be the only link to the novel continuity in The Children of Kings.

Not the only link - Children of Kings builds on a tidbit from Spock's World, that the Orions are degenerate remnants of an ancient super-race.

Also, some elements of Vulcan's Glory are recycled (like Number One's backstory) but with a few minor details altered.

[Christopher]

I've added Dreams of the Raven by Carmen Carter to my '80s-continuity list above, since I double-checked and found that there is a passing use of John M. Ford's Klingon naming convention in the first paragraph. I'd skimmed through the book's Klingon scenes and didn't notice any particular Fordisms, but I missed that first page.

[ryan123450]

Turtletrekker wrote:

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Throw an acknowledgment my way and maybe a link to this thread, and we're golden.

Of course! I had planned on both of those things already.

[Mysterion]

Therin of Andor;4879153
And the Andorian phrase, [I wrote:

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"thiptho lapth"[/I].

And a joyous Ipso facto to you, sir.

[Therin of Andor]

Mysterion wrote:

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And a joyous Ipso facto to you, sir.

"I've got a loverly bunch of coconuts..."