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Old April 6 2011, 02:04 AM   #16
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Re: Epsilon Security Breach and Privacy

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You've bought into the cultural delusion that signage matters.

Or are we back to talking about email addresses?

I'll assume you are.

- Gaining access to something in which you are not permitted to gain access.

Way too fuzzy to be illegal.

- Trespassing.

Obtaining a copy of your email address is neither trespass to the person nor to any real property. You can't trespass on intellectual property.

- Stealing.

It would be stealing if I hijack your email address. Merely knowing what it is - no.

- Invasion of Privacy.

Well, if that is law, then it's law. My concern is more that 'privacy' doesn't exist in any real sense. So how can someone invade it?
Privacy is protected under the 4th and 5th amendments to the U.S. Constitution. Epsilon is a U.S. company. Data storage is a vital part of commerce, and it all comes down to trust. Epsilon is trusted to keep private data safe, particularly if it's third party processing data that involves credit cards and home addresses. The reason this is a concern, is because while Epsilon states no personal ID was stolen, how can I trust that to be so?

I also strongly disagree that you can't trespass on intellectual property. You can. It's called "plagiarism" and "infringement".


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At the very least, people on that list will now start getting a lot more spam.
That's interesting. Just yesterday, I noticed that my Hotmail "Junk" folder seemed to be filling up more quickly than usual.

It might just be coincidence, but it makes you wonder.
I wouldn't doubt it has something to do with that. Epsilon stores massive numbers of email addresses along with other processing information. I just got an email from Walgreens this afternoon. This makes number 9 for me regarding this issue with Epsilon. My spam folder has tripled it's normal storage since the other day.
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Old April 6 2011, 02:26 AM   #17
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Re: Epsilon Security Breach and Privacy

my question is who got the addresses and what is the DOJ doing to track them down?
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Old April 6 2011, 02:34 AM   #18
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Re: Epsilon Security Breach and Privacy

That's a good question. I hope we hear an answer soon.
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Old April 6 2011, 11:10 PM   #19
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Re: Epsilon Security Breach and Privacy

I got an email from Hilton, telling me their database was managed by Epsilon and may have been compromised by this breach. That's the only email I've had about it. I haven't noticed an upswing in spam, at least not yet. Fingers crossed I got lucky.

Funny thing is, I haven't even stayed in one of their mediocre hotels for years, but I guess my email is still on their HHonors database. I wonder if I have any points left after this time; IIRC they got removed after a year or so, so I'm surprised my account hasn't been wiped. Probably been busted all the way back down to Blue instead.

As long as only email addresses have been accessed, I can't say I'm too bothered.
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